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In Philadelphia This Morning, Obama to Call for "A New Declaration of Independence"

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posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 12:48 PM
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PHILADELPHIA, PA -- Here in the City of Brotherly Love this morning, following in the footsteps of his hero President Abraham Lincoln, President-elect Obama will call for "a new Declaration of Independence" and ask Americans to invoke the same spirit of our Founding Fathers to get through these challenging times.

"What is required is the same perseverance and idealism that our founders displayed," the President-elect will say, calling for a new declaration of independence "not just in our nation, but in our own lives – from ideology and small thinking, prejudice and bigotry – an appeal not to our easy instincts but to our better angels."

blogs.abcnews.com...

So what are your thoughts?

I wonder what changes he might implement, or it this just a road show?

Are any changes need in your estimation?
Declaration of Independence
www.ushistory.org...




posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 12:51 PM
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hen in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.


Could we discuss this one paragraph at a time?



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 12:57 PM
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I only wish that Americans had the reading comprehension to go over the Declaration and see just how it fits to the abuses of our current government.

Maybe if people woke up, they would rise up and say NO MORE

Of course that would mean actually being aware and active in their state and federal government - would the sheeple expend the effort?

Read the words


We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.



But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security



He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us,


Change British or King to Federal Government and see just how it applies to us today



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 12:57 PM
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.


I get it.



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 12:59 PM
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I see your point Red.



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 01:01 PM
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So very scary

Isn't it?



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 01:01 PM
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And everything is setting the stage, the perfect storm.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 01:06 PM
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Ah yes, the highly promised stimulus package while at the same time asking for the other $350 Billion in Bailout funds.

Funny, but the 1st half doesn't seem to have helped the economy at all, has it?

Oh the heck with subtlety - read my sig



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by redhatty
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So very scary

Isn't it?


These are the times that try men's souls, indeed!

The Crisis is a collection of articles written by Thomas Paine during the American Revolutionary War.

www.ushistory.org...

THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated. Britain, with an army to enforce her tyranny, has declared that she has a right (not only to TAX) but "to BIND us in ALL CASES WHATSOEVER" and if being bound in that manner, is not slavery, then is there not such a thing as slavery upon earth. Even the expression is impious; for so unlimited a power can belong only to God.



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 01:08 PM
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The last act of a failed regime is always to loot the treasury on the way out the back door.


Exactly, words fail me as they often do.



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 01:12 PM
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56 brave men signed the Declaration of Independence.

At the time of signing, all of them were fairly wealthy by their day's standards

After the revolutionary war, and the formation of our current form of government, almost all of them died penniless, in debt.

They literally sacrificed EVERYTHING they could to create this country.

233 yrs later, the citizens of this country have allowed the dream those men sacrificed everything for to die.

I have served in the military to protect my country, and I have to admit, I am ashamed of it today.

I want the original dream to be a reality again



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 01:15 PM
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Many blessings to you, red, I feel the pain.

I don't know what to do.




posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 01:24 PM
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Neither do I. Don't get me wrong, I am more than willing to organize a protest march to DC and MAKE them listen to us, the problem is getting others to do it.

Can't miss American Idol, or BSG or the playoffs

Can't take time off work

Can't or won't make the effort to have someone watch their kids for a few days

Always an excuse.

Oh they'll whine and complain and be armchair lawyers and politicians

But to actually pony up and DO SOMETHING

that's where it all fizzles out.

How do we wake up the sleeping masses? how do we piss them off and into action before it's too late?

www.fedupusa.org is one place that is also trying to organize

I'm tired of phoning, faxing and emailing elected officials who are supposed to be working FOR us, not against us.

I can't even get enough people to go to the local office of those elected despicables, errr officials to make an impact.

What's even worse, is how many people I talk to on a daily basis that HAVE NO FREAKING CLUE what's going on at all.

Yeah, I don't know what to do either

/rant



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 01:28 PM
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We have lost something red.



What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly:

Stands as true today,

Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.
Alexander Hamilton



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 01:33 PM
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You think he meant that he wants to scrap the Declaration of Independence (the founding document of our country) and write a new one?





How about some CONTEXT?



And yet while our problems may be new, what is required to overcome them is not. What is required is the same perseverance and idealism that our founders displayed. What is required is a new declaration of independence, not just in our nation, but in our own lives - from ideology and small thinking, prejudice and bigotry - an appeal not to our easy instincts but to our better angels.


He was clearly not talking about a document. But a declaration. Something we each declare for ourselves.

You can listen to the speech here, so you'll know what he was actually talking about.



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 01:37 PM
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My sentiments exactly!!!!! I do the emails, make the calls, snail mail when necessary for impact leaders, volunteer with a local Welfare Rights agency, do all that I can to educate people.

I don't get it either, and what is worse, it seems to me the young people care less than those in their 40's and over. There is no sense of right and wrong in people anymore when it comes to government. Most people are jaded and know they are all crooked and screwing us and most just could care less. That is just how we got where we are right now.

With the economy collapsing people are going to have to wake up, I can't see how they could allow this to get worse. Then again, rather than getting up and doing something, we look to leaders to save us instead of us getting up and protesting, boycotting and saving ourselves.

Fema camps may not be so far fetched after all.


[edit on 1/17/2009 by redhead57]



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by redhatty


How do we wake up the sleeping masses? how do we piss them off and into action before it's too late?



Take away their TV...
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Specifically, our hearing demonstrated that there are three discrete problem areas that merit government intervention. First, is the piracy threat presented toward unprotected digital broadcast television. Over the air broadcast digital signals cannot be encrypted because the millions of Americans who receive their signal via antennas cannot decrypt the signal. As a result, digital broadcast signals are delivered in unprotected format and are subject to illegal copying or redistribution over the Internet upon transmission. The technology exists today to solve this problem. It has been referred to as a "broadcast flag" which would instruct digital devices to prevent illegal copying and Internet retransmission of digital broadcast television. Consumer electronic devices would respond to the technology and prevent copyright infringement. However, because not every device would be required to respond to the technology, ubiquitous response requires a mandate ! by g overnment.

The second problem is commonly referred to as the "Analog hole." As protected digital programming (usually delivered over satellite or cable, but also available on the Internet) is decrypted for viewing by consumers on legacy analog devices – most frequently on television sets – the programming is temporarily "in the clear." At this point, pirates have the opportunity to take advantage of an "Analog hole" by copying the content into a digital format (i.e. re-digitizing it) and then illegally copying and/or retransmitting the content. The technology to solve this problem either exists today, or will be available shortly. Regardless, the solution is technologically feasible. As with the "broadcast flag" the solution to the "Analog hole" will require a government mandate to ensure its ubiquitous adoption across consumer devices.


But of course the whole reason for the switch is to free up analog signals for police, fire and rescue right? Now I live in a small city and despite failing under five police jurisdictions (city, township, county, state and campus police departments) we haven't added any new departments that would require extra frequencies that analog TV currently uses.

I find it amusing that the very thing they tried to prevent, piracy, could actually cause rebellion and looting. Which is what real pirates were all about doing in the first place.



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by Ahabstar
Take away their TV...


Oh my yes, that would do it!


Directed EMP?

Something from Tesla's works?

How do we make this happen



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 02:03 PM
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HI BH,

US Constitution “reflected the fundamental flaw of this country, that continues to this day”
Obama,

What does he mean exactly?

What worries me are the changes.

[edit on 023131p://bSaturday2009 by Stormdancer777]



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 02:04 PM
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Feb 17 will do that for quite a number of people; if the numbers are correct, millions are not fully prepared for the digital switch.

Now be sure to thank the gov't for lending a helping hand.




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