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reply posted on 8-2-2009 @ 09:43 PM by Ian McLean
reply to post by zazzafrazz



Yes it was great! Zarek walking out of the quorum meeting and just saying "shoot them" made me gasp. Playing for keeps! Great, gritty episode - literally gritty: since when does sprinkling gravel around the set make Galactica seem 'in distress' and 'under siege'?

Looking forward to next week (didn't watch the preview!), glad to hear we're getting back to more of the series-wide plot arc.


reply posted on 14-2-2009 @ 04:16 AM by Ian McLean
reply to post by rich23



I agree, rich! After the last two weeks, I was getting a little disappointed that we might just be seeing 'small stories' until the series ends, this episode changed that.

So much was confirmed and made clearer! So, the 'final five' are the second resurrections of the survivors of Earth, eh? Their first resurrection allows them to travel, sublight, to the 12 colonies, but they meet the cylon (centurions) before they arrive, and team up to make the organic cylons. Then, their organic creations (and there are eight of them!) turn, at least, Cavil does, and they are resurrected again, as participants in another genocide. Sucks to be them!

Cavil was revealed, in serious detail, in this episode. It makes it all the more ironic that the viewpoint he initially chose to watch the destruction of the colonies, from within their midsts, was that of a minister. What a twist! I'll have to watch previous seasons again, with an eye to the emnity between Boomer and Cavil, to see if there's more nuance to the fallout of her actions with regard to Ellen.

And Ellen! Wow, what a difference from her Caprican incarnation! Playing the Earth-mother. Being the Earth-mother, to her children. Will she get back together with Saul? How do her memories and feelings of her previous life still affect her? And exactly where is she now??

So many things to think about!

Edit: To reveal, and share, my favorite forum for Battlestar Galactica discussion, mostly because of its literate and 'inside-industry' viewpoint:

Television Without Pity


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reply posted on 15-2-2009 @ 05:00 PM by rich23
Just watched it again, and I don't always do that...

I do like the new intro - the old Centurions and the brief but exciting space battle shot... very neat.

The first time through I didn't notice that when Ellen says to Boomer, "you can love", she says "who am I going to love? A human?" - and then it cuts straight to Galen Tyrol.

Let's face it, he was never really happy with what's-her-name, Cabbage Girl... and we don't know whether Boomer knows he's one of the Final Five.

But when Ellen comes back, what's going to happen to Caprica Six and her baby? Is it Tigh's?

Speaking of possibly the coolest character on there... just love how he still calls them "skin-jobs". Brilliant. It's almost as if nothing has happened. Tyrol is at least up with the situation.

I suspect that John/Cavil is going to be turned on by some of his brethren, especially when they find out he put the Final Five on the colonies to get the cr@p kicked out of them, and tortured and raped arguably the two most important.

I also really liked the conversation between Galen, Tigh and Tori as they're waiting for Blanders to come out of surgery. Tigh recalls what "the old man" said (way back in the mini-series) about owning up to what you've done, He knows the Five have to shoulder the blame for the attack on the Colonies and Tori still wants to pass the blame back to the humans. Tigh comes back with "If you go back far enough you can blame a microbe for splitting in two." Awesome.


reply posted on 15-2-2009 @ 08:28 PM by rich23
reply to post by _Phoenix_



I agree about Ellen but I kind of liked slutty milf Ellen, I have to admit. Her new persona is wonderful though - very loving. I'm agog to think of what'll happen when she sees Saul (and Adama!) again.

The Six who's with Tigh now is Caprica Six... and she's changed quite a bit. Remember how she was originally - snapping that baby's neck with a twist of her fingers? Slamming Baltar up against the wall and shedding her clothes at the drop of a hat? The time on New Caprica changed her, and further still since she found she was sharing visions with Laura Roslin.

There was a time on New Caprica when Baltar was falling apart and succumbing to despair and she was trying to comfort him... actually I think that was the time I found her most attractive.

Now she's pregnant she seems rather docile and mareish by comparison.

The Six we used to see in Baltar's head (and where has she gone?) was like Caprica of old, but with that extra twist of monotheism. I also have to say that for an ex-model, Tricia Helfer is really good at making each one different behind the eyes. Remember Gina, the one who'd been on Pegasus and was tortured and raped, eventually committing suicide by setting off the nuke? The other week there was another Six who only had a small role to play in proceedings - schtupping Baltar again, funnily enough - but again was different.

I'm trying to figure out if Daniel=Baltar, which would explain a lot, but Ellen said that Cavil had compromised all of Daniel's clones. Hmmm...

EDIT to add...

When I found out Tricia Helfer had been a model I searched the net for some photos, because I thought she'd had a boob job. And, sadly, I was right. That's the one thing about her I don't like - she looked much lovelier before the op. It's such a shame that boob jobs are pretty much the norm these days in the US, and increasingly so here in the UK.


[edit on 15-2-2009 by rich23]


reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 07:22 AM by _Phoenix_
reply to post by rich23


Thanks for reminding me of all that, I agree with everything you say, including the boob job.

She's also in a show called Burn notice now.

Baltar was also the first thing that came to my mind about Daniel.


[edit on 16-2-2009 by _Phoenix_]
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