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Originally posted by WyrdeOne
Andrew Jackson is the worse president ever.
Bush is a bad guy, but he's not a genocidal maniac.
I ran Bush #2, for what it's worth.
Originally posted by yellowcard
Originally posted by WyrdeOne
Andrew Jackson is the worse president ever.
Bush is a bad guy, but he's not a genocidal maniac.
I ran Bush #2, for what it's worth.
Hahaha, that's so ridiculous, Andrew Jackson is the only President in American history to pay down the U.S. debt completely. The worst Presidents are the Presidents you hardly hear of, and again Bush and certainly not Jackson are no where near that bottom of the list. Seriously read an actual history book on Jackson, aside from the trail of tears he was actually quite fantastic, and he had many comical encounters with some Congressmen, he even beat one with his cane for the congressman more or less calling his wife a whore.
[edit on 17-1-2009 by yellowcard]
Originally posted by Leo StraussYeah "Old Hickory" also took on the banksters so many here on ATS bemoan. He closed down the equivalent of the Federal Reserve considering their organization to be nothing but thieves and leeches. He realized early on they were trying to rule the country by controlling the money supply.
Yes he was an Indian killer too! But he was a man of the people and one Bad MFr!
Originally posted by TruthParadox
reply to post by Leo Strauss
Where'd your '9' and '10' go?
Sorry, but the President is not responsible for all the woes in our country.
He's responsible for the financial mess we're in? Seriously?
Do you realize how little the President has to do with our free market economy?
Also, your "1" and "2" are one in the same.
Oh, and history doesn't need to hang Bush because he's already been hung. Haven't you seen the news?
Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, we have deficits? Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes?
You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does. You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does. You and I don't write the tax code. Congress does. You and I don't set fiscal policy. Congress does. You and I don't control monetary policy. The Federal Reserve Bank does.
One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president and nine Supreme Court justices - 545 human beings out of the 300 million - are directly, legally, morally and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.
I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered but private central bank.
I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman or a president to do one cotton- picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it.
No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.
A CONFIDENCE CONSPIRACY
Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.
What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a SPEAKER, who stood up and criticized G.W. Bush ALONE for creating deficits.
The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it. The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes.
Who is the speaker of the House? She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow Democrats, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto.
REPLACE THE SCOUNDRELS
It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts - of incompetence and irresponsibility. (and all should be convicted of dereliction of duty as defined by their oath of office, and in some cases outright treason.)
I can't think of a single domestic problem, from an unfair tax code to defense overruns, that is not traceable directly to those 545 people
When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.
If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair. If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red. If the Marines are in IRAQ, it's because they want them in IRAQ.
There are no insoluble government problems. Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power.
Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exist disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation" or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.
Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible. They, and they alone, have the power. They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses - provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.
We should vote ALL of them out of office and clean up their mess.
by Charley Reese
Originally posted by Leo Strauss
1. Worst recession since the 1930's
2. Worst financial crisis since the 1930's
Originally posted by Leo Strauss
3 Worst foreign policy mistake in the history of this country.
Originally posted by Leo Strauss
4. Unprecedented rejection of human rights.
5. Unprecedented increase in inequality.
Originally posted by Leo Strauss
6. Blind rejection of science.
Originally posted by Leo Strauss
7. Utter refusal to protect the health, safety and legal rights of Americans.
Originally posted by Leo Strauss
8. Presiding over our nation's worst natural disaster, and not caring.
Originally posted by wayno
Personally I don't think the outgoing pres should be "hanged" by history.
Both he and Cheney aught to have a little sample of "water-boarding" and maybe a few of those other "non torture" interrogation techniques that they approved applied to themselves before they ride off into the sunset.
Maybe we could get a really good confession out of them while were at it --- what was the truth about why they did all the stuff they did? Were we CT's right after-all, or not?