OMG! California controller to suspend tax refunds, welfare checks!

I read this thread and then this advert come's on tv,

so if california seems like your work, one question, when can u start ?

I fell ill

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Mongol General: "What is best in life?"
Conan: "To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women." and enjoy California!

reply to post by Jinni

"Is it too late? No it's not. Not yet. People still have a couple of weeks yet (at least).

Why do you think it's too late?"

He might be referring to the fact the Colin Powell said the unknown
test for Obama would come quickly around the time of the Inauguration.

As Mr. Powell still has a lot of friends in the government and military
I am going to go out on a limb and say he heard it thru the grapevine.

I'd take the man at his word, he has shown to be more wise than
some of the ppl running this country.

reply to post by Muundoggie


Tell me PLEASE that you understand the difference between capitalism, which is an economic system, and socialism, which is a political system? Please tell me you understand that, and please tell me that you also understand that capitalism, can be, and often is, the enemy of democracy. Otherwise I have even less faith in Americans that I previously did- and that's saying something.

Next, they will run out of prison funding, and have to release all the murderers, rapists, and theives...wait...
isn't that ///the financials markets? banks? how pleasant. It all will come full circle

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hey your kidding right it does make sense if that happens
we are ***ED whats the chance of it?

reply to post by Anonymous ATS


Thank you for this post...This is my favorite parts...

it just can't be the money the governator throws at the hydrogen fuel pipedream. California Hydrogen Highway Network initiative is Ahnold's baby. "da hydrogen fuel is da foocha"

nope...can't be those things. it just can't be that business and politics are deep in each other's backsides.

let's round up the gypsies and jews and put them in camps! oops...I mean lefies and immigrants.

pathetic

"da hydrogen fuel is da foocha" got me to laughing till I had tears streaming...
I could just see Arny saying that for real...
Then the other parts just kept me laughing...
I had to read it several times to make lite of this really scary situation...


Thank you for the good laugh...I appreciate it...

Yes...I am worried about all of this stuff too...
I just needed something to pick up my spirits and this was it...Thanks...

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Thank you mystiq...
Perfectly worded...

The world seems so cruel to me so often...
I say all of the time I am ashamed...I am ashamed of humanity...

I am disabled...I had brain surgery this summer...So I draw SSI...
My health has been bad for going on 9 years now...
I am raising my son and helping to care for my grand baby...
Life is a every day struggle...

But...I know how truly blessed we are every day of our lives...
So does my son...at 13...

I am ashamed that the haves of the world can sit back while so many in the world literally starve to death on a daily basis...It breaks my heart...
And I am horribly ashamed human beings can treat each other the way they do...

Even then when they smoked on TV some people had a good idea what we would face. Have a look and see what Huxley had to say.


Aldous Huxley interviewed by Mike Wallace (1 of 3)

Aldous Huxley interviewed by Mike Wallace (2 of 3)

Aldous Huxley interviewed by Mike Wallace (3 of 3)

So what happens to the generations that have been on welfare their whole lives?

Maybe this will be a wakeup call for some.

Originally posted by Xtrozero
So what happens to the generations that have been on welfare their whole lives?

Maybe this will be a wakeup call for some.

Please don't mix conservative mythology with facts. Show me the people who have been on welfare their whole lives, several generations worth. That's not really possible within the US, unless you are a corporate entity.

Otherwise either add something productive or stfu.

Probably an obvious point...but...I guess its time to stop paying taxes???

It would be tough to lose welfare and be out looking for a job right now in this envornment. People are getting laid off every day. In November, the unemployment rate was 8.4%, and it is higher now.

California Employment Stats

Not saying I agree with the folks who work the system and try to get welfare in order to avoid work. I am just saying that pulling that money is not going to force them to work when there are not a lot of places hiring right now.

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The problem isn't Americans won't do the jobs...it's that Americans won't pay an honest wage for these jobs. That's what started this: GREED. Now people can stop blaming something other than Americans for their own problems...it's pretty disgusting, typical and very symptomatic of the much LARGER problem at hand. Besides, the wage the illegals earn, by and large goes back into the economy much like any other dollar earned. California makes it way too hard on employers to do the right thing. My lady is a business owner in CA, and I know first hand. She has never hired an illegal, but she sure as HELL hasconsidered it. TAXED TO FREAKING DEATH HERE!

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You can bet they would keep on paying monies out to Israel hand over fist no matter what the economic situation is . Makes you wonder if being a CA resident is somewhat lower down the scale of priorities than being an Israeli . Have to ask your dual citizenship government officials I suppose .

Text White im sooo worried after reading all of this. Im 20 in school and disabled since I was 18 been on dialysis and I have a 2yr old!!! Idk what im going to do if I don't get my SSI I have no other income source what so ever and im a single mother! If anyone has any more information contact me at [email protected]

Originally posted by harrytuttle
The teachers have absolutely NOTHING to do with this situation. You are wearing your ultra right wing "privatize everything" agenda on your sleeve.

Why are you protecting the guilty and attacking the innocent?

Teachers have nothing to do with the situation?

The teachers unions practically own the state legislature.

The teachers unions constantly demand more even though the state is getting less tax revenue.

The teachers unions constantly cry about putting the economy before children when people call for reforms or necessary cutbacks yet if the teachers unions aren't really putting children first, they are putting themselves first.

The teachers unions are made up of teachers or represent the teachers.

The public school teachers in California SUCK. The public education system in California SUCKS. Hell the public education system, especially k-12 in the U.S. SUCKS. It doesn't take an "ultra right wing-privatize-everything" person to see this.

How is it such that teachers complain so much about their salaries and about classroom size or whatever? They earn waaaaay too much money. How is it some poor nun in some nearly broke inner city private school can teach better than a public school teacher?

The teachers unions don't care about teaching, they care about job security and they care about sucking the money from the California taxpayer while at the same time holding on to near extreme amounts of political power.

State workers, especially teachers unions, have gotten drunk with money and power. During the good times they were all fat and happy with the tax revenues. Now that the economy sucks and tax revenues are drying up, state workers want to make up the losses by taxing more.

It doesn't take an "ultra right winger" to get get pretty miffed about having to pay more taxes to support teachers that suck at teaching and a government that sucks at governing.

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That piece of Urban Mythology has been over since Clinton made the changes to the system. There is no more life long welfare anywhere at all. People who cannot find work are now working at the Social Services agencies up to 35 hours a week and are still required to put in 40 new job applications a month. Free money has long since been stopped.

reply to post by imd12c4funn

Prison are often run privately and are basically for-profit. It's cheap slave labor, so I don't think they will close them anytime soon.

reply to post by wutone


Teacher demand and should command a good salary equivalent to the education they have. CA strongly encourage constant education and more degrees for teachers than some other states. almost every teacher i know has a Master's degree or better. the Private sector pay for a Master's degree is a way higher than 60K a year...Teacher are being over worked in the public system as the No Child left behid act and the implementation of standards, class room over crowding has really made it difficult to ensure a quality time to educate the students. It is not the teacher fault it is the short sighted politicos and government not reading the research and looking at what the private schools do well.
many teachers should never have started they are terrible, many should never quit they were genius, but too many are complacent and look to a higher salary to compensate for a very bad working condition in the California public system....I know of many VERY VERY good public school districts and schools in the US and California- the bad schools take down the average of the good few.
and no surprise the better public schools reflect a better educated population in the neighborhoods....is it the school system or by and large the I don't care attitude of the bad neighborhoods?
Teachers in California are asked to do alot with little, and the general population in the school system is largely not coming from a very good background socially or economically.