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What was really happening in the world yesterday?

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posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 01:24 AM

Originally posted by Enigma Publius

Originally posted by CaptainWilliams
Here is a surveillance video that shows the plane crashing into the Hudson river.

But the Twin Towers are in the skyline?? What the heck? When did this actually happen?

Take a look and see for yourself.

holy crap captain......nice find....there IS somethin a little strage about that eh? damn. i dunno what to think now.

Those are not the twin towers that went down on 9/11. They are two much smaller towers that are located in midtown Manhattan. The WTC towers were downtown about 5 miles south.

posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 01:25 AM
reply to post by Crakeur

thanks, master of the obvious.. did you even bother reading the quote you were replying too? the guy asked a QUESTION and stated his FEELING... nowhere did he make it seem like he was claiming this to BE a false flag and/or distraction

alot of ppl need to stop their need to feel important in hopes of actually getting somewhere in a conversation...

give someone the benefit of the doubt before sounding like an

posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 01:37 AM

Originally posted by vonspurter
Don't you think it deserving of a long news slot as opposed to a hostage situation as you mentioned?

Not enough death and destruction in it for you?

It was newsworthy because the pilot did a fantastic job in bringing the plane down with no engines into a river with nobody seriously hurt. Hailed a miracle I think it was a pleasant distraction from the crap happening in the world right now.

I hope they give that pilot a niiice reward and send him into a nice retirement .. truly earned, and saved the airlines millions of dollars.


The plane DID get destroyed..

posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 01:39 AM
HOLY CRAP!!! Dateline just aired that video with the TWIN TOWERS in the background!!! ARE YOU F'IN KIDDING ME!!!!!

posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 01:55 AM
reply to post by odd1out

OOOPS! NOT the Twin Towers HUh? My bad...

posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 02:14 AM
3 Words:
Israel bombing Gaza.

posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 03:14 AM
While I am glad everyone survived and was ok. I am a Theorist, and, as such, I have some Theories.
The use of the Word Miracle, gives me pause. They hailed Obama as the Messiah. And now we're seeing Miracles. I'm an Athiest, so it's easier for me to be cynical and condescending of Religious people. I choose not to be, but rather try to find proof for myself of their claims, which to me would be nice if they were true. However, the bulk of the world believe in Messiah's and Miracles of one form or another, so for a news media which panders to these believing Consumers all I can speculate is that, either we've become a Nation were terms like Messiah and Miracle are bantered around without reverance for the actual Messiah or Miracles they believe in- believing that it is okay to do it because they say it tongue in cheek and that the real deal, if they existed or were coming do not mind and that there is no harm in labelling someone as a Messiah or something as a Miracle because no one would ever possibly think they were serious (BTW what happens if the real one does come and everyone says you can't be the Messiah, Barrack is?) or They are ushering in the likes of Project Blue Beam and the like. That or He is the AntiChrist, and the Prophets of Media ushered him in as the Messiah (which is how an Anti Christ would come-a false Savior would come as the real One) and he would not say, I am the Messiah. Others would hold him out to be, and the World would blindly accept it, maybe, thinking they were just claiming it tongue in cheek and weren't being serious. No throwing around claims like Messiah and Miracles use to be punishable by death. I guess people aren't a s serious about their beliefs as they claim.

As to running it all day, maybe they wanted to make up for their inaction for Katrina and justify the Billions spent training and supplying their secret police- I mean rescuers.
Why the if it bleeds it reads media would run it, well, while it's nice to have good news for a change, if they aren't pushing the religious aspect I referred to above, they had an angle to be sure. OK , maybe, they were trying to guage the results of positive media. But, I doubt it. They know it doesn't work they wouldn't waste their resources.
Therefore, I conclude that it was a planned, staged, and executed event to drum up support for FEMA and the like to bring us closer to "quarantine" camps and the like. I find it too "lucky" and convenient, the entire thing, that is, especially, how close they were to already established and readily available "rescue services" of the Cost Guard and the like, who claimed rapid response, and the overwhelming flock of reporters who not only showed up, but, were even authorized by the media to devote such overwhelming coverage of a "good" human interest piece, despite profit concerns that such pieces don't typically sell and so merit Jr. reporters and minimal coverage at best. Even Headliners like Katie Couric took to the scene to cover it. As if she already knew the coverage this would get and what it would do for her already high ratings. No, she'd of been career minded enough to remain at the desk. She knew it would be big, despite these things generally not being so.
I don't believe it was a cover up to hide something else. I thonk it is the cover up. And, I don't think two birds hit it, what they showed could have been high tech remote controlled devices. Anyone see a close up of the "black" birds in the film they highlighted. Better yet, how did they conveniently get the shot?
Maybe, it was real, but, I don't trust anyone, so, I'll not accept anyone's claim. Not even the passengers.
I am glad everyone lived though. Even if it was staged.

posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 03:22 AM
If it was to cover other news, let's not forget the 11 States that claim they will be bankrupt at the start of this year, including California who is already leading the March. Or the business that will be out of business because they can't afford to operate, like Ford, because the bailout they got wouldn't cover their costs as reported to Congress.

Can we sa y National Socialist Government?

[edit on 17-1-2009 by PhyberDragon]

posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 03:32 AM
Originally posted by romanmel

If you are a "news junkie" surely you've noticed over the last several years that MSM covers what is cheap for them to cover. This was local and simple but most of all cheap to cover in depth. Budget cutbacks in the news departments have left little more than a minimal staff of no-name newsreaders to drone on their meaningless chatter.

Completely true. If Japan sinks into the ocean and they haven't got footage yet, but there's a local twin-engine plane crash the same day, guess which story gets more airtime, footage, discussion?


posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 04:31 AM
No conspiracy a bunch of birds were ingested into two engine and everyone was lucky.

Videos of bird strikes

Bird strike testing

bird strike test 2

Plane striking birds on takeoff

Imagine if 10 birds went into the engine. It would have sounded like an explosion as it ripped apart the engines.

posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 07:13 AM

The link above will take you to a pic of the WTC/NYC skyline before 911.

As you can see, the WTC was alittle more the double the height of the buildings around it.

Although I would prefer a more professional debunk, this pretty much does it (???).

Please see my first post on this thread near the top of page 6. It talks about the possibility of this being a Russian hit of some sort.

The story is a snip of another article copy-pasted at a different website. Later today, I will try to track down the original link to this story.

[edit on 1/17/2009 by Genfinity]

posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 01:24 PM
Maybe we're looking at the wrong thing. I got to thinking about the pilot being sequestered for a few days. Seems a bit long to discuss an incident that took three minutes. So I started wondering about these birds. Does anyone remember any passenger seeing birds around the plane as it was taking off? What I mean is, for there to be multiple bird strikes in both engines there must have been multiple birds. Did anybody see any actual birds before or during the fire in the engine etc? Maybe what we're being distracted from is that this was a attack. If that plane had not miraculously landed safely but hit a building and exploded, it would have been a mighty big distraction just before the inauguration.

posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 02:47 PM
Why hasn't any of the media been able to talk to the pilot yet? Seems strange to me that someone who has done the impossible is kept from the media. I for one am waiting to hear how he did what he did and second by second account of his desision making of the whole process.

Why can't we hear what he has to say. He is a hero. The world wants to hear his story. Seems strange to me that he is kept in secret.

Maybe it means nothing. Just wondering.


Yes, I too am very happy that everyone is safe and that there were no deaths.

posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 02:51 PM

Apparently, someone found this video offensive.
Since pretty much everyone made it out ok... I kind of find it funny, and semi relevant.
Anyway, glad to hear of a near miraculous aversion of danger instead of a disaster for once.

posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 02:59 PM
1. When a pilot says the word "bird," he needs to clarify if he is talking about a two legged thing with wings or something metallic with fire coming out of the back end.

2. Did anyone on the ground or in the plane see feathered birds? Anybody? Anybody?

3. People have gone through turbine engines and the engines continued running until they were turned off. But but afew birds through and BLAMO! Riiight. That's up there with WTC7 and JFK's magic bullet.

Think back to the 1996 Atlanta Olympics. Remember when flight 800 went down. A wedding party on the beach claimed they had video of a missle hitting hit. The FBI "borrowed" the footage and it was never returned.

Think back to when JFK was killed. If the Secret Service realized you had video or photographic evidence of it, they snatched it and you never saw it (or the agent) again.

To me, whatever is left of the KGB firing two RPGs or whatever sounds much more believable then some birds doing what a man can't, completely take out an airline engine.

When you put ice in your blender, does the blender break every time?

When skyscrapers catch on fire, do they always fall down?

There is something more here. What, I don't know. But the story, as it is being told, is unbelievable.

Oh well. Back to "reality."

posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 03:02 PM

and finish with raising my hat and drinking a beer for the pilot.

Outstanding... Truly!

posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 04:10 PM
No question the pilot deserves a salute. He did the impossible and was lucky to backed up by a great flight crew and a surprisingly adaptable group of passengers, supported by a beautifully trained group of first responders on the Hudson.

That being said, I question the nature of the "double bird strike". I want to hear from passengers who saw birds. Not birds flying along the river as they were landing, a FLOCK of birds the plane flew through that caused engine damage. Surely not all birds were sucked into the engines and escapees would have been seen through the windows. People aren't napping yet. Who saw the birds?

The only reason I can think of for needing days of debriefing for the pilot is to get his story straight. I'm not for a minute suggesting the pilot was involved in any conspiracy but I remind you of all the times commercial pilots have had to sanitize strange encounters. Maybe they want to be sure he doesn't say anything that will frighten people.

posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 04:11 PM
Personally, I find it amazing that everyone survived, and I don't think the event in itself is a conspiracy. However, I am tired of listening to the same story all hour, every hour. Maybe if the MSM had something more to say than what they have been for over a day now I would feel differently.

Apparently the pilot grew up not too far from where I live, so I also have the pleasure of seeing the same video over and over again of the local news talking to one of the piolet's former teachers.

Again, I am very happy that everyone survived, and I think the piolet did an amazing job, but I would like to be able to WATCH (as in not have to rely on the internet) the news and see something else.

posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 06:28 PM
I find it bizarre the news reels stated that all passengers were coralled into a staging post to be accounted for,

Yet one man was show on TV being handled into a police car by an FBI man ??????

Wake up America, you are no more free than Gazan's, Zimbabean's!

You are witnessing the largest bank robbery on earth.

posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 08:01 PM
why isn't the pilot aqllowed to talk yet...they covered very angle possble, but he is still sequestered. ridiculous. if that doesn't raise eyebrow then somethin is wrong. I think the poeple in power are/were shocked when he landed the plane safely, i think something is totally bogus here. ever heard of a missing black box on a virtually undamaged airplane? i'm sorry to use thisword, but that seems pretty retarted. oh well, maybe we'll find out eventually. I am just starting to realize that they now know they can feed us any bull story no matter how outlandish and folks are just gonna accept it. Seriously, why can't they find the box, or get to it or whatever? why would we have ANY reason to believe that at all?

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