FEROCIOUS big cats DO live in Britain — after being seen by Forestry Commission rangers., page 2


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reply posted on 18-1-2009 @ 03:20 PM by Grock
reply to post by Kandinsky


Good post. I enjoyed reading those links. I especially like this quote -

When people ask as to why large cats haven't been found dead on the roads or in woodlands I always ask back, "Have you ever found a dead fox in the woods ?", and often the reply is "No". So, if there are thousands of foxes out there, and far less cats, what are the chances of finding a dead cat ? Remote. A large cat may die in some remote area and be scavenged, but on the roads there have, in the past been a few incidents regarding animals such as lynx and jungle cat, hit by vehicles and killed. The only pathetic thing regarding such an unfortunate event is that usually someone from the RSPCA or whoever comes and clears the body away all hush, hush which seems a little ridiculous when you consider it's just a cat and not a monster, but because the officials and authorities refuse to accept these cats exist, they remain mere legend and myth, but I'm not sure why such animals are ignored. Maybe authorities fear mass hysteria but a majority of the general public either know these animals exist or couldn't care less.



reply posted on 18-1-2009 @ 03:43 PM by Kandinsky
reply to post by Grock
Thanks

The fox analogy is a good one. I grew up in a semi rural area, went walking and camping. Generally exploring like most boys. I never saw a fox or carcass. A couple of years back, they culled 16 foxes in that area. The population had become a problem and most people living there had never even seen them. A solitary, nocturnal hunter like a black cat in several hundred square miles of countryside and woodland? It's no surprise they are a rare sighting. Any lambs taken would be accounted for by the foxes. Apex predator with an aversion to people seems an ideal enigma.


reply posted on 20-1-2009 @ 12:28 PM by Kandinsky
Originally posted by Wig
Originally posted by Kandinsky
That's the point I was making, where are the bones?
It's educated guesswork.


I still can't see what point you are making. What is your view on the possibility of a number of big cats (not just one, which I think is unrealistic, given the sightings) across UK?

What is your view on the possibility of bigfoot existing in - or visiting (visiting deliberately or by accident) the UK?


Hiya Wig,
I doubt the existence of Bigfoot. I doubt it for many good reasons. One is that Apes live in social groups, we wouldn't be speculating about solitary Bigfoots spread across hundreds of square miles. We'd be speculating about 7ft tall family groups. Apes favor nests too. The 'Bigfoot Question' is a phrase I invented and applied to the question of UK Big Cats. The 'bigfoot question' as I define it is the fundamental problem that no Big Foot bones have ever been found. No Clovis-age, neolithic or modern age bones or carcass has ever been found.

When I applied it to the Big Cat question, I was demonstrating that although all the evidence indicates that 'at least one' Big Cat is at large in England; we still have the problem that no bones or carcasses have been found. No bones and no bodies, makes the case for Big Cats circumstantial. 'The Bigfoot Question."

I still favor the idea of the Big Cat. So do the Ministry of Agriculture and the Forestry Commission who have employed a tracker and a marksman to find them.

Cougar/Puma

Black Panther

Mistaken identity?



reply posted on 22-1-2009 @ 08:01 PM by albertfothergill
www.thewestmorlandgazette.co.uk... otted_near_Grasmere/

Cumbria in the North West of the UK (The Lake District) has been full of reported big cat sightings for many years. I have friends in a place called Kirkby Stephen, a rural and quite desolate village. Many times they have seen a big black cat and not like the old tabby type thing. Trackers were called out and on numerous occasions followed tracks but lost the trail.

Also many farmers have reported the loss of sheep and mutilated carcasses. The above link is only a pointer to follow should you like to research a bit more, but my friends are not sensationist types and it only ads credence to other sightings across the UK.

Obviously as stated in a previous thread, these are exotic pets that became "too much too handle", many years ago and were released and have thrived. No biggie on one hand but I hope they are never starving for food should I be in that region again, I could be dinner.

Albert


reply posted on 22-1-2009 @ 10:12 PM by Kandinsky
reply to post by albertfothergill

I've never heard reports coming from Cumbria, but it's a good place for them. We did the Dungeon Ghyll> Great Knott> Crinkle Crags> Bow Fell climb last year and didn't see a soul until Bow Fell. Vast areas of underpopulated country, woods and farmland. Seems ideal.

View towards Dungeon Ghyll

From the top of Crinkle Crags (I think?)





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