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Issues I have with "Free Masonary" on this ATS website

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posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 04:15 PM
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Some sororities, not all buddy....

Alot of sororities like their jocks. =P




posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 04:25 PM
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Women do have their place in Masonry. They have the organization or Eastern Stars. It is affiliated with the Grand lodges in the States. Masons and there wives and other women who would like to join can join the Eastern Stars if they are accepted into membership. I have many friends who are Eastern Stars who used to be Job's Daughters or a member of the Rainbows for Girls which are Masonic Youth groups for girls 11-21. Young Men can join the group called DeMolay.



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 05:26 PM
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Greetings.

They blurt and provide info because they realize that the numbers are dwindling and need to get the people in to get accustomed to torturing their neighbors.

As for posing and providing dis-information, I'd have to say this is true.... if you follow just about any of the masons profile and check out their posts within these mason threads here you will be amazed at the inconsistencies flooding these threads.

One will say one thing and another mason will completely say the reverse... As for proud, these guys make statements like ...



As mentioned, if a Mason vows before God and his Brethren to obey the Moral Law, it's not an option to later violate his vows.

and


Since a Mason is sworn to Truth, there exists a deeper bond between Masons and truth than exists between those who have not taken such a vow.


Is this being proud or arrogant?

So if a mason is sworn to truth then I'll believe this..
MASON TRUTH. A link to an Investigative journalist who they, the masons, call a link to a blog..

This goes to show you that maybe they can tell the truth. They have proven with their statements that masons/jesters have a knowledge of pedophilia within their ranks...





Clear dis-information....

Thanks for helping to wake up the masses.
S&F
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[edit on 16-1-2009 by AllTiedTogether]

[edit on 16-1-2009 by AllTiedTogether]



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 05:44 PM
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lolwut?

ok i will say what i say in other masonic threads. Masonry is Subjective. you make it what you want the masons on ATS have different views of Masonry and its teachings. That's one of the beauties to masonry IMO you can see Masonry however you want. It is not like a Religion where you are forced to believe a set of rules and beliefs.

Every mason gets something different out of masonry. Masons on ATS will agree and disagree with each other but it does not mean they are wrong.



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 05:50 PM
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I'm a mason

Yes I am.

INFACT, I'm such a mason I can mix concrete, sand, and water to make CEMENT!

Then I apply the cement to chicken wire on a shower that I am creating followed by strips of wood that I use to level and then scrape off the extra concrete.

FOLLOWED BY OMG! after the foundation is level and dry, I take my tile cutter and quik-set and make a pretty shower ceramic! after that, I put grout in the cracks!!!! OMG

lolwut~

OMG!!!~~~

No pun intended

[edit on 16-1-2009 by Revolution-2012]



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by AllTiedTogether
This goes to show you that maybe they can tell the truth. They have proven with their statements that masons/jesters have a knowledge of pedophilia within their ranks...


AllTiedTogether,

If you want to resurrect that dog's breakfast of a necrothread, feel free to do so. Please don't be derailing different threads with an OT, K?



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 05:57 PM
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you must be one of those Operative Mason's i dun heard about.

i know you are up to no good! you and that trowel of yours....i tell you what



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 06:00 PM
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I know I'm very elusive.... You definetly won't find me at a construction site building things.

=)




posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 06:14 PM
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Derailing?

What I'm doing is putting out verifiable information that others can see is true. Just because it's older doesn't mean it's not appropriate to the subject...

"Issues I have with 'Free masonary'"...



fm bskivss3
If the Free Mason Society is so secretive, why do have so many "Free Masons" blurting all kinds of info and how proud they are and their ranks etc etc.


Everything I've said pertains to the subject of masonry and the Issues that people have with them.

Thanks again for showing us how masons work..
Rgds



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 07:07 PM
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Is it OT to THIS thread? Had there not been a necrothread on that particular matter, a decent argument could be made to the "aye" side. However, there was and there isn't. Deal with it.

Your post was and is OT and is a derail.



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 09:27 PM
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If I were a freemason, I'd abuse the crap out of my status on ATS. Seriously, I'd just go to threads randomly, call people "unenlightened" and then throw around obscure, creepy phrases like "soon it will end, the world as you know it, and you will be cast into a vortex of nothingness because you have turned your back on us. In turn, we've turned our back on you".

Then I'd make even more nonsensical remarks. You freemasons have got it good. Just because you guys are freemasons, people think you're omnipotent.

If only I could get people to think I'm omnipotent. Then I could bring about my own new world order.



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 10:36 PM
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Like I said, you masons really show what the person should expect from you. Your like a herding dog, trying to gather the sheeple...

I'm not one of your sheep there fitzy boy....

This thread deals with the issues of masons... that could be the pedophilia they've been found to be a part of, the clear indications that dis-information is being given by masons on the website etc.... it's all in the posts and on other threads... I'm sure the smart ones will already find the proof enough to by-pass the fluff and disinfo.

Thanks again for the demonstration of your craft...



posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 11:46 PM
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Thx guys for all the input,

Saurus, we will have a chat later this week, you and me.

Cheerios



posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 12:12 AM
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Oooooooooooooooooh! Someone's turning up the heat in this relationship!



posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 06:43 PM
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lol are you trying to Troll or what?

i dunno from what I'm getting at is that your just trying to spark a bad situation or something or trying to get someone mad. Especially when you bring up pedophilia and masonry. that is an insult and damaging when you label someone of that status and when it's not true either.

to me it seems like you're just trying to pick a fight or something



posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by AllTiedTogether
This thread deals with the issues of masons...


'Issues' that happen to be one persons opinion and no more.


that could be the pedophilia they've been found to be a part of


Where is the related substantiation for this comment? To what specfic event(s) are you refering?


the clear indications that dis-information is being given by masons on the website etc.... it's all in the posts and on other threads...


If this 'dis-info' relating to Masonry is so prevalent I am certain then that you will be able to post several examples so that other members of this forum can then debate the merits of your findings.



posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 09:13 PM
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If you check previous posts you will see that the proof of pedophilia has been provided. All of your other questions would be derailing from the OP.

You masons must get over the fact that someone has proof that masons are involved in criminal activities. Whether you like it or not pedos are running your organization and the organizations that are affiliated with it. Check previous threads and search google... but don't tell me that there isn't anything there.. cause that would prove you ignorance to the data...

I've yet to see any mason who posts to defend them provide the truth. There is always some way in which they sway the truth, omit details or alter the subject to have the true OP sidetracked.

I am constantly attacked by low level masons who seem to reiterate the same thing that there is no such thing as a high level mason... but your avatar info shows us different... jk('
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To get back to the OP, I'd have to agree that most are posing in some way and that most if not all have NOT been to the very dark side of it yet.... this would protect them from someone blurting out something inadvertently.

I mean that would be my conclusion given the fact that your constantly asked the same questions and provide answers each time yet they still come back and ask for the same answers.... I can read other threads and use the information provided to relate to other thread topics... The "posers" mentioned in the OP see to have alot of difficulty doing this....

IMHO
Rgds



posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by AllTiedTogether
If you check previous posts you will see that the proof of pedophilia has been provided.


I see no posts by you that detail this pedophilia, please direct me to them. If you are refering to the Frost blog, then that is not proof, a blog is an opinion.


All of your other questions would be derailing from the OP.


My questions are directed at your comments. Are they derailing as well?


You masons must get over the fact that someone has proof that masons are involved in criminal activities.


Ms. Frost again? She is not proof, she is a person offering her opinion and attempting to piece together a misleading narrative from what she feels is her interpertation of 'evidence'.


Whether you like it or not pedos are running your organization and the organizations that are affiliated with it.


The orginization can not be 'run', it is decentralized by nature and has no overarching structure or control.


Check previous threads and search google... but don't tell me that there isn't anything there.. cause that would prove you ignorance to the data...


Google is a tool, it is not the be all an end all of truth. Because something appears on the internet does not necessarily make it the truth. A discriminating and discerning eye is needed to seperate opinion influenced 'reporting' from actual fact.


I've yet to see any mason who posts to defend them provide the truth.


It would seem that what you feel is the 'truth' and what is the truth may be two very dissimilar realities.


There is always some way in which they sway the truth, omit details or alter the subject to have the true OP sidetracked.


You continue to mention sidetracking but it is you who broached this subjects and it is you who continues to further comment on them without substantiating them.


To get back to the OP, I'd have to agree that most are posing in some way and that most if not all have NOT been to the very dark side of it yet.... this would protect them from someone blurting out something inadvertently.


What is the very 'dark side'? Additionally, and according to the Original Posters theory, you can not pose and at the same time be a Mason. Either we are Masons or we are disinformation agents sent to distract you from the sinister plot we are somehow attempting to conceal for the Masons. Seems rather convoluted to in my opinion.



posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 10:12 PM
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As you seem to be a student of history Augustus(from your avatar), my suggestion would be for you to peruse the history of threads dealing with the jesters, masons, pedophiles, high level - low level etc... There are enough examples to satisfy even those with a shadow of doubt... they will then see the slight of keyboard going on here...

Rgds



posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 07:54 AM
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Threads with people like you calling people like me a pedo is not proof of anything except your intelligence level. Proof would be a newspaper article stating that a group of masons have been found guilty of touching kids. Proof would be an arrest warrent for a group of masons who broke the law acting as masons. Notice I mentioned a "group" needed for proof of a conspiracy. Because just one mason doing something wrong is a guy who is breaking the law. Please for the sake of your future, try to use your brain before you use the keyboard. It makes for much better disscussions. And remember, "A BLOG IS PROOF OF NOTHING!" sorry about the yelling.



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