Nazi Germany Vs Nazi Israel

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posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 12:47 PM
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Nazi Germany Vs Nazi Israel



Approximately 254,000–300,000 (Jewish) Ghetto residents met their deaths at Treblinka during the 2 months long operation.

en.wikipedia.org...


I guess Israel has killed 300,000 in Gaza since November? Where are they stashing all the bodies?

Perhaps they built their own version of the Treblinka extermination camp.



Treblinka II was designed purely for extermination, its area measuring just 600 by 400 metres. Around 850,000 people - more than 99.5 percent of them Jews, were killed there between July 1942 and October 1943. (According to the Germans and the guards who were stationed in Treblinka, the figure ranges from 1,000,000 to 1,400,000.)


I'm sure you've seen these camps in operation near Gaza. Everyone including women have their head shaved, then they're stripped naked, then they're forced to sit on the edge of a pit full of burning bodies. They're then shot in the back of the head and pushed into the burning pit to burn. These camps should be easy to find by the smell if nothing else.



The stench from the decomposing bodies could be smelled up to ten kilometers away. The Jews waiting in the train wagons knew what would happen and thousands committed suicide in the trains.


Could someone please link to a site that shows the locations of these extermination camps where the Palestinians are taken to? I can't seem to find them.




posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 12:52 PM
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would be to hard for you to read the first properly wouldnt it?
did i say Israel has killed as many as the Nazis?

or are you saying the Actions of the Israelis arent simmiler to how they Treat Palestinians?

Or to you and some is the holocaust just about Numbers and not what happend and how things led up to the deaths of 6+ million jews and millions of others

I am comparing the actions, unless you can tell me those actions that i have pointed out so far dont have any Resemblance at all



edit: i await your reply telling me all the stuff i pointed out is a farce and lies


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posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 12:56 PM
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firstly could you tell me who the Hell is the Major?
sorry for the one Line.

edit: this is weird, post just vanished

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posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by bodrul
reply to post by magicmushroom
 


well they can scream Anti-semite and Anti jew from the top of their Voices,
wont make me shut up and express my Views,


Mate i respect your views but you gota be careful as a thread like this might get you banned.Don't forget who runs and controls this site.


War of words on ATS won't solve anything.If you really feel for the palestinians than try and do something for them.Arabs/Muslim leaders are a bunch of corrupt sold out B*******.Its people like us on the ground who have to act and bring this BS to an END.



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by bodrul
i await your reply telling me all the stuff i pointed out is a farce and lies


The stuff you pointed out is a farce of lies.



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by Captain Obvious
The stuff you pointed out is a farce of lies.


thank you, you have proven my point
that Israeli supporters will ignore the Truth even if it is put infront of them


thanks


but feel to discredit my first reply

with a real reply that actuily rebufs what i posted


[edit on 16-1-2009 by bodrul]



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 01:07 PM
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posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by SectionEight
There is no such thing as Nazi Isreal. This is pathetic.
If you research history on the Palestinian authority back through Arafat and Al Husseini before him you will find a direct link to Nazi Germany. They were allies, close confidant to Himmler and was intimately involved with the "Final Solution" even visiting the gas chambers while they were in operation.

Get your REAL historical facts straight.

Deny ignorance indeed. This site is turning into nothing more than an outright blatant conduit for hate.


No but there's such thing as Nazi USA.



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 01:26 PM
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Your fault is not in facts, but how you interpret the facts.

Yesterday 1 airplane crashed into the Hudson river, but there were no cars falling into the Hudson river. Proof that cars are safer than airplanes right? What did I say that was untruthful?



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 01:28 PM
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The reality is the Israel is DESPERATE to get out osf this and is looking for anything to save face as the entire world turns is back n them for being so evil - Egypt is their only hope. Even then Hamas will not accept terms and hence have won.

There is nothing Israel can do BUT accept the Palestinians rights.

The best thing though is that global collapse is almost imminent in 2009 - Israel is going to get SHAFTED b the US.

If I was Israel I would be making peace cakes and sorry am as fast as I could, because as soon as the yanks walk away, there is going to be "chosen peoples" blown all over the middle east.

One of my gravest concerns regarding Israels actions (beside care for those they are massacring) is for the Israelites themselves - they are living in a hornets nest and send their whole time shaking the tree - eventually they are going to get stung, and the US smoke screen is not going to be there.



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 01:43 PM
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Audus, I tend to think Israel has thought long and hard about this invasion. I mean, how many years now have they been hammered by DULY-ELECTED Terrorists? The people of the region elected the Hamas monsters to run the show for them, I suspect Israel has just about given up on anyone rallying to put a stop to the terrorism, EXCEPT themselves. You want something done right you gotta do it yourself. They certainly have exercised a great deal of patience however. They are in it for the long haul, I doubt they care one red cent what anyone else thinks at this point.



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posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 01:45 PM
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so no chance i will see you try and discredit the first reply
not that i am supprised


but thank you, each post like that shows the True colours and agenda shine through




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posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 07:47 PM
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I don't sympathize with either side involved in the conflict. I do sympathize with the civilians caught in between. Although the Palestinian radicals are a bunch of crazy retards, I expect more from the Israelis.



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 03:50 AM
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"The Zionists brought us to the Holocaust. It is well known that it was possible to redeem Jews from the Nazis with money, and save many hundreds of thousands of Jews in Hungary . . .
THE ZIONIST LEADERS WHO NOW SIT IN GOVERNMENT PREVENTED IT!"

Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Ehrenreich (circa 1954)


The Nazi-Zionist Connection

This is an article about a documentary The final solution to Adolf Hitler. Great read. Sheds some light on the situation.



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 04:11 AM
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I don't see even the most remote similarity to Israel and Nazi Germany.
I think that's just more useless anti Jewish rhetoric.
During the 2nd world war, it was Islamic organizations that sided with the Nazi's and were Allies of Hitler.
Because they shared the common hatred of the Jews and wanted to exterminate the Jews.
Israel is not a Jewish country, its just a country.
It was founded by Jews, but anyone can live there.
Most uneducated religious propagandists, don't even know that Arabs and Arab Muslims and Christians are drafted into the Israeli defense forces by agreements with there society's that share common lands.
Its only the Sunni extremists who want to kill the Jews.
I really couldn't care who runs Israel I have been there for a holiday and I never had anything but a great time.It is a nice place.And it most certainly isn't Nazi.And ill go back there for a holiday again.



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 05:08 AM
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Counting just front page of this thread and i see 6-7 zionist taking israel into defense without replying to OP thread which actually has substance. When that is done they try to Derail thread by stating a discussion around Palestinian old history, but guys its not Palestinian´s history under fire its israels history. Don't answer questions with other questions it makes you look like you are hiding something, and only children acts that way.

S/F for thread starter for bringing the truth here.

Best regards.

Loke.



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 06:21 AM
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A very interesting OP to think about.
I just wanted to post and show my support for this discussion.

There is a very good point in trying to learn from the past and history.

One thing is very clear, it is very dangerous when people think they are the choosen ones above all others.
Justifying the killing of many "untermenschen".

It is a very old trick to paint your enemy as less than human, making it easier for your army to kill those animals.

Maybe it is good to read up on the definition of fasism and see if the mentioned countries compare to it.



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 06:59 AM
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Please no more of this crap, this is not that important right now as a planet, why is it then you say... this is why we fight over small a pitiful things like who is right. I say that we need to look and agree on something here, QUIT WASTING LIVES



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 02:25 PM
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Ok, points are made and are quite clear. I apologies ahead if i repeat some of arguments for sake of complete reply.
Comparison A:


Hitler claimed his people were descendants of a superior race (and they had supporters world wide even the United states, ....
People from Israel Believe they are a superior Race and like the Nazis have people around the world that support that (example majority people in the United states)

Well, yes there are people in Israel who do believe that they are chosen (by God) race. Personally i always ask them - chosen to do what? Since in the army for example i was "chosen" for kitchen duty several times - and really hated it, it was not a good thing to be chosen to do. But it does not matter, what matter is the start of your own line:
Hitler claimed ...
People from Israel believe....
Show me how it is official policy in Israel. Show me prime minister of Israel claiming that. Otherwise it is not comparable. I think that there are still people in Israel who support transfer of all Arab population. And? Is it position of the state? Is it desire of majority of Israeli population?
Comparison b:


Hitler Pushed Jews into Ghettos and overcrowded them and starved them of essential items, food and other things before mass murdering them.
Israel Have Palestinians in a Ghetto and deprive them of the basics,
and kill civilians on purpose using weapons which were banned to be used against Civilians

Is West bank - ghetto??? And in Gaza, the only place that can be compared to ghetto -
A) are people deprived of all basics? I do not recall red cross being able to pass shipments of aid to people in ghetto in Nazi Germany.
B) was not Gaza open with seaport,airport and passages before the rockets and Hamas? I do not recall rockets coming from ghettoes fired at Nazi Germany and Germans tolerating it for almost a decade. The uprisings were suppressed, after which no living soul survived in the same ghetto.Who did not run, was killed.
C) are people in Gaza dieing of starvations on the street and have a special team hired to just collect the bodies?
Once again - you compare the incomparable. And while actions of Israel in the last Gaza conflict were aggressive and destructive to Palestinian population - how it differs for example from what Jordan did to the same Palestinians, killing much more by the way?



Nazis stole Jewish Property and land and other assets
Israelis Steal Land and Palestinian assets claiming it’s theirs given to them by GOD.

Yes, Nazis stole land - not only from Jews by the way, they took land from Poles and others. But!!! Tell me - what France did in Africa? Did not it stole lands? China - Tibet, USSR - Finland;Poland;Latvia;Estonia;Litva;Japan...., Russia - Georgia, UK - Argentina; And hundreds of examples in the recent history.
It certainly does not make Israel right. It certainly does not justify what Israel did and does. But it also does not justify on this basis to say that since Israel did what dozens of other countries did (including Nazi Germany) - they are also Nazis. Call French Nazis and see how it plays out...
As for propaganda - both sides use propaganda. Proponents of both sides use propaganda (as yours, and probably mine) posts show. So? All countries in the world use propaganda for their interests. All nazis?
And finally - violin example. Yes, it must be pretty humiliating for this man. And it was pretty sick as far as soldiers are concerned. So? There is difference between some sick individuals and government policy!

[edit on 6-2-2009 by ZeroKnowledge]



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 02:54 PM
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You discredit yourself.
Why do you think he has stars for his posts?



Somewhere on this forum I posted the mind set of an anti-Israel poster. It went something like this...

Here is how it starts from the moment you give your opinion on the situation. First they will call you a Zionist or an Israeli Apologist . This is how they stereotype you by grouping your opinion with the lowest common denominator. Then they will compare Israel to everything Nazi related. Gaza = concentration camp. Israel = Nazi Germany. Barak = Hitler. Brace for ad ad hominem attacks because here is where they usually come out. Next, they move on to how you called them anti-Semitic. So, they are the victim in this whole situation. And the final step is to repeat the process from the beginning.

I posted this weeks before this thread....how ironic is that?





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