I don't think they even need a court order any more to wire tap. Didn't the new patriot act take away the need for any warrants? I have been under the impression that all they need is some one saying something then starting an investigation.

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Why can't the government understand that some people don't like how our country is ran? Why do they have to interrogate people if they have anti-government views? I don't get that.

The agent said some one reported me. I own and work in a tattoo / piercing studio, so yes some one could very easily of overheard my views. After all I am very public about it. I will and do tell anyone and everyone my views. Part of changing the corrupt system is education. In order to get the change needed you must talk to people and get the word out about the truth of what happens in our government. I feel that change can only be manifested in the spreading of information.

Originally posted by k-string
You're going to get a lot of people coming on here saying that it was stupid to answer those questions at all, much less truthfully.

But I find it refreshing. It's not often you find a person as truthful and full of integrity as you. Even rarer to find one that holds views that threaten the status quo and willing to inform their agents of it!

Or as full of b***s***! I am neither a fan of law enforcement nor the State of Okielahoma, but there is no way that a State Trooper will waste his time as you described.

To what effect? Any answer you'd give would not lead to or provide evidence of any offense whatsoever. You ask ATS members to believe that you were selected by the State for investigation of Nothing! Can we find you a forum that better suits your hubris and need for approbation?

What, exactly, is the point of a thread that essentially asks: 'If I am a patriot, why is the govt. asking me about it?'

Get off your high horse and get a real life.

Deny Ignorance.

If they are reading this, I would like the Gestapo to know that this is the USA not soviet Russia and that asking you these questions and investigating you at all is against the law. Political views, racial views(however unsavory), religious views, and views on anything is your business not theirs.

If they want to ask me questions they'll be met with the worlds largest civil rights lawsuit. The can go F themselves.

Hope you're reading gestapo. This is the voice of a patriot.

Originally posted by LowLevelMasonThe whole story sounds suspicious to me - even if you did attempt to incite violence, that would be a federal level investigation and not state level. But I have no doubt this will get 50 stars because its what people want to believe is going on

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I almost always agree with you, but not on this point. I think his story is quite plausible. All it would take is whoever reported his "suspicious activity" to say he mentioned revolution, or urged someone to get their guns or something.

All it takes is one stupid person to take something out of context, or someone who doesn't like him to outright lie about him.

I can totally see this happening.

This is new? There are some choice files, some still remain classified, of the FBI COINTELPRO of the 60's and 70's. People were investigated and persecuted for the most asynine of reasons. I am sorry your political views, provided they don't condone violence, are cause by them to infringe on your civil rights. Just for the record, your not alone here. An event that happend to my Mom in the 1960's highlights such stupidity. I was born in Chicago, and we moved to the suburbs in 1969. My Mom wanted to have some drapes made for our living room windows.

She was given a name of a superb seamstress. My Mom met this lady at her home, they became friends. The only problem was this womens son was one of the founding members of the black panthers (you know where this is going...). Hence in March 1970 my Mom got her very own FBI file. From this time forward J. Edger Hoover, his lipstick and flu-flu would hound my life forever. Thats just one reason I never worked for the FBI. The thought of seeing Hoover in a dress would turn me into an instant anorexic. Even the thought gives me nightmares. I got access to my Moms file and was dumstruck so much money and effort was used to investigate a housewife. Your not alone. Lord, spare me from such idiocy. But I won't hold my breath. I went into the clandestine service to protect my country, not pay homage to parinoia.

Well thanks a lot for carroting them in here to observe all us paranoid freaks. I just heard something...

Originally posted by Oneofus
Well thanks a lot for carroting them in here to observe all us paranoid freaks. I just heard something...

Well sorry about that but with all things considered I think they have probably already been watching me on here. I am sure that part of an investigation like this they will and have been tracking my internet usage. They were probably watching my posts before I even knew they were watching me.

I find the OP's story very hard to believe. Unless the OP said or did something he is not sharing with us there would be no investigation.

Informants and/or undercover agents are usually used to gather such information.

A person can be investigated up one side and down the other and never know it happened.

I have known insurance investigators to pose as federal agents to get facts on recipients of disability insurance and Workman's compensation.

On several occasions I have seen such "watchers" and have confronted them and asked why they are watching my tenants. I would always ask for identification and to see the notes and paperwork they had.

If they refused I made them leave my property.

It is not cost effective for two men to watch a person that has done nothing worse than the OP said he did.

No disrespect to the OP intended. We have one of the few FLETC here and I know how these guys operate. I personally know several instructors and consider them friends.

interesting. Did you get any pics of these civilian tags? I mean they were following you for 3 days. This should have been I am under investigation on ATS because the government wants to know my political views. were you passing out the Koran and anarchist cookbook outside the FBI office? come on guy why cant you just post stuff like the other people like "im a time travler from the PAST" " Pic of UFOs only i can see" or your transcript of an interview you did with an illuminati shape shifting reptilian. at least make it better next time with a chase scene or shootout.

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