Originally posted by wylekat
ANY holographic or any display has a source running things. Where is the 'machinery' running the universe? Find that, and you have all your answers.

Good idea. Yet I think that some scientists (still need to read the OP's article) mean that the Universe behaves as if it were a hologram. In other words, one part is also the total Universe (whatever that really may mean). This approach then should explain why strange things that aer outside cause-and-effect happen. I had the book Parallel Universe (untill I lend it and never got it back) and the author wrote about seeing an umbrella change all of the sudden (if I recall it well). Spooky stuff :0

Amazing, I thought this subject was science fiction but it's now a very possible scientific theory.

S+ F

I really wondered how long it would take them to figure this out. And just imagine, we help create this illusion we see. We help change and mold these things we see with our thoughts. We are co-programers of this hologram.

While the article and the scientists in the article all admit that at this point, it's not even a theory - more of an idea... it's absolutely mind numbing. I'm going to just type the things I'm thinking as I'm pondering this...

What this means is that I am and all I encounter is nothing more than information.

I suppose that it doesn't really change anything - as I was nothing more than information before - the sum of spinning electrons, traded protons, and vibrating atmosphere.

If the volume of the universe exceeds the surface area and because of that, the I that I'm aware of is a stretched and blurry representation of the true I - than how big am I. Am I a planck? I certainly can't be any smaller. Since the 2 dimensional surface area accounts for our 4 dimensional perceived universe - than that means that even though I may be no larger than a planck, I am every planck in every possible planck length position on the surface area of the universe at all times and never... what is the sum of everything, the everything's state past and present, and all perceived possible states of said everything... As in the Time Traveler, when the passing of day and night came to pass so fast that it equated to a sun and moon streaked dusk...

...we are all one.

neat.

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Wait.. So I'm thinking about this; the fact that I'm just a just resonance of a 2 dimensional version of myself.. why would I be thinking about the fact that I'm just a hologram, when in reality, I'm 2d? Why would my 2d self be thinking about why he's a hologram, when he's not?

Questions, questions, questions...

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Originally posted by ben91069

Originally posted by Common Good
I couldnt help but think, what will this do in termsof religion, and how religion is seen throughout the world?

Not speaking for all those who follow Christ, but that is one of the premises of the Jesus figure. He was the son of man which is the representation of his higher self in the heavens. Think of yourself as a sock puppet and your real self is acting out its thoughts in this world which is a matrix.

The world itself is just the working end of the pantograph and the real world is the stylus.

Very nice!


Very well put

It's important to find the insights of the past in the evidence of today.

On one of my experiences (and I believe I wrote this somewhere before) that I was standing looking up at the sky and a huge vent opened to show me life isn't what you thought it was and the Alien ships were up there showing Earth isn't exactly like you thought.

Interesting times I say, all I can think to share is pinch yourself,

I'm surprised this has come forth

I heard this theory a few times, but when I wake up and hurl my guts out it doesn't really feel like a hologram... argh so sick today lol

I am soooooo not smart enough to wrap my brain around this, lol.

I would imagine that the Universe has quite a few more dimensions that just the three (or four) we're most familiar with, and that those are part of the overall hologram, too.

For instance, a good portion of the Universe as I perceive it exists only because I exist, and am here to observe it. When I die, my portion of the Universe will cease to exist, and therefore, from my perspective, the entire Universe will cease to exist. I find that to be an interesting example of the holographic quality of the Universe.

Oh, too bad for you suckers when I die.

This information has been out there for a while if you know where to look.
It's hidden everywhere, even in front of you.

Especially in front of you.



The Invisibles, V2 Issue 6, 1997 - DC Comics

- Lee

So, our very existence is something akin to The Sims and Spore. Does that mean that Will Wright is technically God to some virtual civilization in one or more of his own games?

What does this tell us about the eternal question of Why Are We Here?

What light might this shine on the religions of the world?

How does this structure the notion of death and afterlife?

Why am I wasting my time working and going to school and tending my dogs and loving my family?

From a gaming point of view, I suppose the sexuality revolution was nothing more than an expansion pack.

What of the higher beings that created this holo-verse? Are they themselves the reality, or just another holographic life such as our own who have expanded to the point of creating their own playthings, much the same as we create games and simulations? What lies beyond and what is the real life form?

The theory is as sound as the gag in the last frames of MiB, where our universe is contained within a marble on a playing field in another verse of its own. If the reality can be proven, then life as we know it is essentially over and not worth living.
Given a Matrix scenario, is it possible to awaken and leave this holo-verse and join reality? If so, sign me up.
What about 2012? Is that something significant to the hologram that we are part of? Perhaps there is a reboot of the holo-matrix coming and we all start over.

Too many questions. I think my controller just clicked my "eat a sandwich" then "go to work" macro, because time is upon me to do both.

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Originally posted by FiatLux
I really wondered how long it would take them to figure this out. And just imagine, we help create this illusion we see. We help change and mold these things we see with our thoughts. We are co-programers of this hologram.

If this is the case, then I'm gonna program this BS back into Newtonian physics and go eat a piece of cheese.

I am going to post an excerot from the OP's original article where it is the most simply explained for those of us who are struggling to get our heads around it:

The holograms you find on credit cards and banknotes are etched on two-dimensional plastic films. When light bounces off them, it recreates the appearance of a 3D image. In the 1990s physicists Leonard Susskind and Nobel prizewinner Gerard 't Hooft suggested that the same principle might apply to the universe as a whole. Our everyday experience might itself be a holographic projection of physical processes that take place on a distant, 2D surface.

The "holographic principle" challenges our sensibilities. It seems hard to believe that you woke up, brushed your teeth and are reading this article because of something happening on the boundary of the universe. No one knows what it would mean for us if we really do live in a hologram, yet theorists have good reasons to believe that many aspects of the holographic principle are true.