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Scientists Discover "Universe is Giant 3D Hologram"

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posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 11:05 PM
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If our job is to stay alive, then all of us are going to fail. Nobody gets out of this life, alive.

Death is just a part of life. Our atoms go back into the system and become other things.

This discovery does open up the possibilities of eternal life however since all information in a hologram are retained.




posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by theresult
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He says do not dwell on questions you can't understand.

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You know there are certain things one can do that could be considered as not cool to do. One is try to understand the why, or the science behind this creation. But again, I think since we are so close to the culmination, and with all of the scientific evidence pointing in the direction of intelligent creation, many are asking, or at least thinking these things.

I enjoyed debating with you.



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 11:13 PM
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your missing the point...

You are infact questioning god IM NOT....

people who want to get closer to god make humans dumb..

If god put us here what did he do first? HE MADE US..

dont you thing that is the very point of all this? we was CREATED

stop asking WHY and get on with staying "created" .. armagedon is becoue we keep asking a question. here is some

what is god
who is god
what does he look like
what did he say
what do we do
what do we do waht we do


all stupid and pointless....



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 11:15 PM
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The one that I am reading right now is called, "The Black Hole War". It's about Susskind's theories about black holes and the preservation of information.

He had a bet years ago with Stephen Hawking about whether information was preserved after matter was destroyed in a black hole. Hawking said no. He explained his position in, "A Brief History of Time".

In "The Black Hole War", Susskind explains his position, which was later verified and he won his bet.

The place that I am at in the book is all about the information of 3-D matter being stored on the 2-D surface of the event horizon of a black hole. If this experiment is verified, it will represent experimental confirmation of Susskind, on a Universal scale. He will probably win a Nobel Prize for it, if this experiment pans out.



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 11:18 PM
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death is failing AT being alive.. dont confuse the two

we need to stop fannying about and get our house in order here...

being alive is prime objective.. or why do we want better everything and profect everyting??

Becouse we as a race WANT TO SAY ALIVE...some know this already some are still busy asking why..

the people who run our lil rock understand one thing STAY ALIVE.. but they would rather use YOU to keep them going thant YOU understanding natual selection

or you could watch it on tv when a lion rips off some poor lil gazels head off..

we are the gazel.. the lion is the universe

we need to avoid death at all costs becouse we aint ever getting back into the loop we call being alive "for all its nuttyness"

when ur dead UR DEAD and that IS A FACT or would you argue this?



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by theresult
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your missing the point...

You are infact questioning god IM NOT....

people who want to get closer to god make humans dumb..

If god put us here what did he do first? HE MADE US..

dont you thing that is the very point of all this? we was CREATED

stop asking WHY and get on with staying "created" .. armagedon is becoue we keep asking a question. here is some





That would be a good argument if He had never revealed Himself. But He did, and is still revealing to those who are worthy...I know who is worthy? I can't say, all I know is each living soul encapsulated in this living body, be it energy field, or whatever, is given a chance to prove their allegiance to Him.

Obviously, much more to the story. But we were given all we needed, and now our own scientists are starting to figure out the how of it, but not the why.



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 11:26 PM
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I have some trouble with your analogy. You do realize don't you, that every gazell is eventually eaten by the lion? The gazell's only hope of saying alive is to be faster than the others.

So, eventually every gazell dies, just as we all will die. There is no way to avoid death.

As far as eternal life goes, the idea of a giant Universal hologram might indicate that the concept of an eternal after life, may in fact be possible.



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 11:34 PM
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no not every gazel is eaten by the lion...

and as you point out some run fasters than others

We need to run abit faster here on the rock or we will infact end up like T-rek and his pals

Me being here and helping out other understand we need to stay in the game to keep on playing it regardless of WHO you infact belive to of made you..

its called getting real...



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 11:36 PM
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That would be a good argument if He had never revealed Himself.

who did?

im intersted who this HIM was... or do you mean god? or jeasus?

i think you are confused with the two..

you still dont answer my question... or provide any proof to back it up other than hersay..


nice try tho

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posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 11:48 PM
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If this hypothesis is true at all then the important question is who is behind it all? Who's projecting it?

We are all made of nothing technically but the fact remains that there is an actuality of our physical existence no matter how granular it appears when magnified. We just don't understand it yet. The fact is space and time exist and so do you (consciousness). Space and time are in everything and makes up everything. All matter is made up of space including quantum particles and space is technically nothing. I believe that the natural order of the Universe was engineered but I wouldn't stretch it to say its a hologram perhaps something similar.

Take a look at www.gpofr.com to see what I mean.



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 11:55 PM
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If this hypothesis is true at all then the important question is who is behind it all? Who's projecting it?

thank you!!!!!

Who is?

we dont know that BUT i will say something.. the amount of threads i have read about us KNOWING we are in something realy deep and heavy is a good sign!!

I dont mean to be a pain "tho i am" but this 2012 thing could be when we infact understand and face out own survial mentaly..

We are all talking about infinity... the loop!

my imput into this bebate is about staying inside it for as long as possible

hologram or not WE are here.. wtf are we going to do?



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 12:21 AM
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Originally posted by theresult
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If this hypothesis is true at all then the important question is who is behind it all? Who's projecting it?

thank you!!!!!

Who is?

we dont know that BUT i will say something.. the amount of threads i have read about us KNOWING we are in something realy deep and heavy is a good sign!!

I dont mean to be a pain "tho i am" but this 2012 thing could be when we infact understand and face out own survial mentaly..

We are all talking about infinity... the loop!

my imput into this bebate is about staying inside it for as long as possible

hologram or not WE are here.. wtf are we going to do?


I tend to agree. If 2012 is anything special perhaps it is the beginning of a new understanding. Maybe we'll make first contact publicly sometime in 2012. It might even be judgment day...are we worthy enough to enter the cosmos as judged by our cosmic neighbours or has our technology advanced so much so that it is inevitable that we're moving into the cosmos but our peaceful nature is still severely retarded that we on 2012 pose a great risk to the rest of Universe and "they" must take action to defend themselves? I truly believe we are our own worst enemy. If even one of us on this planet still has the fanatical inclining to committing suicidal terror as of Dev 21, 2012 I think we may be judged still as a huge risk to the our Universal neighbours and the natural order of things out there because perhaps the technological knowledge to cause Universal hardship is simpler than we think. By 2012 we as planet, as a people (diverse but one), must be far more enlightened and truly achieve global peace because the alternative is annihilation...maybe. We'll have to see.


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[edit on 16-1-2009 by MainframeII]



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 12:31 AM
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lol there is no maybe here... it is a fact

we work together or we are totaly screwed as a race...

the important part is we still have a choice.



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 12:38 AM
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What we need to do now is to make a serious attempt to connect science and philosophy. According to Indian religious philosophy and the writings of ancient sages, the universe has always existed - the steady state theory as we know it - and wasn't born out of any physical processes, like the Big bang.

According to their philosophy written thousands of years ago, the ultimate power (God?) in this multitude of universes is projecting (Holographic projection?) countless universes at a time which lasts for countless ages. The power then 'rests' for trillions of years to 'rejuvenate' after which 'His' consciousness projects more universes starting the process all over again.

Now what is this 'ultimate power'? We term it as God. Could it be a multi- dimensional super consciousness at work here that is much beyond our understanding and comprehension - until we graduate into thinking in more dimensions than the present four?

In other words, what the scientists are now trying to discover was known to Indian sages thousands of years ago! So the need of the hour is to figure out some formula for combining philosophy with science! In other words, a real theory of everything!

Cheers!


[edit on 16-1-2009 by mikesingh]



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 12:41 AM
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Originally posted by theresult
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lol there is no maybe here... it is a fact

we work together or we are totaly screwed as a race...

the important part is we still have a choice.


Yup you're right.

I don't think we'll be measured on any gray scale. It's black or white. It's all of us or none of us.



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by mikesingh
What we need to do now is to make a serious attempt to connect science and philosophy. According to Indian religious philosophy and the writings of ancient sages, the universe has always existed - the steady state theory as we know it - and wasn't born out of any physical processes, like the Big bang.

According to their philosophy written thousands of years ago, the ultimate power (God?) in this multitude of universes is projecting (Holographic projection?) countless universes at a time which lasts for countless ages. The power then 'rests' for trillions of years to 'rejuvenate' after which 'His' consciousness projects more universes starting the process all over again.

Now what is this 'ultimate power'? We term it as God. Could it be a multi- dimensional super consciousness at work here that is much beyond our understanding and comprehension - until we graduate into thinking in more dimensions than the present four?

In other words, what the scientists are now trying to discover was known to Indian sages thousands of years ago! So the need of the hour is to figure out some formula for combining philosophy with science! In other words, a real theory of everything!

Cheers!


[edit on 16-1-2009 by mikesingh]


This is the last time I promote this site but check out www.gpofr.com



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 12:47 AM
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Thanks you're right. We are finally starting to get it. The human race is finally waking up!!!!!!!!!

I am not sure how to prove this. But I am thinking of the sun shifting magnetic fields or a complex system of magnets. Rather a division of cells that reproduce, the force behind creation for what it is, the act of reproduction and creation.

Ah, the mandelbrot set.



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 12:48 AM
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i know i sound doom and gloom but this not joke for me..

we must stay in this game loop hologram god eden whatever anyone calls its..

Our choice is be here or not be

and all you guys are just the same as me.. we NEED to stay in the game for our kids ect..

is that not why we have them?

living is everything



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 01:20 AM
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Originally posted by Common Good

At least I know the 2 Dimensional me likes to smoke blunts.




hahahahah my 2D version likes to smoke fat two dimensional blunts as well, I've always wondered what a 2D blunt smoked like.....

two dimensional blunts would be a great name for a band.... or a sci-fi movie or tv show about interstellar potheads.....

lol great thread....



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 01:26 AM
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This is NOT a discovery at all. It's a theory and NOTHING more.

So many people on this forum make the fundamental mistake on confusing theory as fact.


"If the GEO600 result is what I suspect it is, then we are all living in a giant cosmic hologram."


The language used is by no means a confirmation of anything. And - believe it or not, black holes are still unproven. It may come as shock to many of you but there are just as many astrophysicists that don't subscribe to the theory of black holes as there are that do.

It's quite likely that black holes are merely a gap in the understanding of our universe and at the end of the day, this theory of a holographic universe relies on black holes being a real phenomena.

There's a very large disparity between unproven theories and reality - and it appears that a reality check is what many people need.

IRM


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