The Cash-Landrum UFO Incident: Personal Recollection

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posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 02:08 PM
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If you read the case for the Rendlesham incident, the cases are different. The Rendlesham case has been embellished in many ways to make it sound better than it was originally. I read a good skeptical report on the Rendlesham case, and much of the information in it is ignored by UFO researchers. Here is the report:

skeptoid.com...

The Cash-Landrum case was obviously a terrestrial test craft that was controlled. The main part of the case is that the military (or contractors) paved the radioactive part of the road. How did they know the road was radioactive if the craft was supposedly unknown?

People want to believe in UFOs. That is the problem, and research is often done to impact the beliefs of the community.




posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 01:38 AM
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I heard that the UFO was being escorted by a large contingency of helicopters
from Ellington AFB in Houston to Ft. Hood.

It's not from outer space.

So it came from Texas and being secreted by the military even
as they do damage to people.

And can't own up to it.


ED: Minerals with some component atoms will become radioactive
or the non radioactive damage just had to be fixed like the rest of
the case.

ED: All these sparky radiating craft a from the lightning man: Tesla,
stolen by the Illuminati and helped by Truman and every government
now possessing them including the UK. The US beat out the UK
at the end of WWII for the Tesla saucer and got the plans and
destroyed what they did not take.



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posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 02:43 PM
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I am familiar with the Rendlesham Forrest incident, as it occured in the United Kingdom it has always been of particular interest to me. I'm not going to argue for or against the authenticity of it here because this thread is about the Cash-Landrum incident not Rendlesham. What I am arguing is that if word of it (Rendlesham) had reached the "top brass" in the US it may provide an explanation as to why an apparently dangerous and unfinished prototype aircraft (and I do agree that this is probably what it was) was tested over US soil.

Does this not sound plausible?



posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 02:51 PM
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That is quite plausible, especially as the US was not supposed to have any nuclear craft or weapons in England. They would want to keep anything that has to do with nuclear power a secret so as to not upset the citizens of England.

I should of kept the topic to relate to the Cash-Landrum case, but I felt the reference to the case was good enough to add the article.

I do agree, it is interesting these two cases appeared in the same time frame of a couple of days. Coincidence? Probably, but it is hard to tell when the government is involved.



posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 04:11 PM
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Don't need nuclear power.
What, this was run on steam.
What nuclear power flies.
Does the FBI have a book from Einstein we don't know about.

Actually, if desired a nuclear sub or carrier might be flown electrically
with the right equipment and powered by steam turbines from the
nuclear pile. Well a lot of work there.

However a remote programmable ship in either case might be possible.
Only one thing.
They would have to power down to get signals in for the reprogramming.
The outer lightning created too much noise and why the FCC banned Tesla
sparky devices.
The out of control craft damaged the road, quite a feat before going on
to crop circles.

Tesla made a model with self contained programed flight perhaps
in Brooklyn.
Tesla UFO theorists are quite sure.



posted on Jan, 24 2009 @ 08:41 PM
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They never identified the road on the show, so I'm wondering since I don't have all the facts, I just assumed they were refering to fm2100.



posted on Jan, 24 2009 @ 09:23 PM
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Project Winterhaven.

Personally I believe that the UFO was really a prototype craft developed out of the Project Winterhaven. PRoject Winterhaven was a project to test out some of T.T. Browns ideas regarding electrogravetics headed up by the govt. Some people claim that the craft was part of "Project Snowbird" to rebuild a crashed UFO or back engineer it. PRoject Snowbird was BS and the real project was Project WInterhaven. ANd the UFO's weren't extraterrestrial but man made, from mans own concepts.

The Flame shooting out the bottom of the craft was T.T. Browns flamejet. THe flamejet was a novel way to build up massive electrical potential which can then be fed to create massive electrical fields. The flamejet basically uses a little generator attached to a jet engine. The generator ionizes the exhaust which then carries the negative electric charge like the conveyor belt on a van de graff generator away from the positive diod or whatever. AT the end of the jet turbine is a series of electric baffles that pick up some of the electric charge and re feed it to the engine like the generator initially did, so as long as there is fuel to keep the jet going the flamejet generator will build up really massive electrical charges sell sustained. No outside electrical power source to ionize the exhaust. the conveyor belt only can move the electrons away from the positive diod so fast or so far to build up a pretty decent voltage. imagine what jet exhaust would do if ionized and set up in such a way to take advantage of the principles of the conveyor belt in the vand de graff generator. Millions of volts can be developed using T.T. Browns flamejet.

So they started building devices with TT Browns flamejet generator in the bottom of them. THat was the flame shooting out the bottom of the craft. THe crafts were supposed to use massive electric fields to move. Utilizing electrogravetic theories for propulsion.

The radiation effects have been explained before in some connection to craft using devices that could create radiation that were electrogravetic in nature and were part of project winterhaven.

Maybe it was the electric fields or some sort of exposure to them that caused the radiation sickness. More likely the craft they had witnessed and got a little too close to was using technology developed out of project skyvault a project maybe conducted under or part of project winterhaven. Project sky vault utilized very powerful microwave beams in the 3 gig range using a technique called Phased Conjugate Microwave Resonance. Phase conjugance is a complicated thing to explain ( although it's a common technique used in modern radars, optical devices, and very high end communication and tracking devices, real high end like Govt only.) But basically it is a technique in which a beam of microwaves can be reflected off an object and have it retrace the exact path it took. the beam doesnt bounce off the object and scatter but stays confined and eventually acts like a capacitor where it bottles up the microwave beam and doesn't let the energy escape out of the beam. it will just keep building up, and building up in strength until either the device fry's and the energy is released or it hased to be momitored and controlled finessed so that it doesn't get out of control. the point is it can develope microwave beams on almost unbelievable power. THese beams are then bounced against the underside of the craft which is made mostly from metamaterials. materials that are biased somehow against microwaves of certian wavelengths and abosore the energy creating a repulsive effect. basically the microwave beam can push around metamaterials. So this microwave beam could push the craft around. THe beam in it's efficiency will lock on to targets on the ground or attempt to. part of the physics behind phase conjugance. if the beam is too narrow it can make objects it's hitting in theory become very irradiated with microwaves. I guess the trick is to spread out the beam like a cone so that it interacts with a wide swath of the ground limiting it's irradiative effects. The beam could have accidently locked on her and roasted her and the car. This beam will also make objects it's bouncing off of act piezo electrically. it will vibrate in tune with the beams frequency. creating a humming sound. people report the crafts having a soft humming or buzzing sound sometimes. that isn't the craft but the ground vibrating in time with the beam. the beam if in too tight a projection will also transfer some of it's energy to the ground. people who have been knocked over by a UFO when it took off suddenly are most likely accidently locked in on by the beam.



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 04:53 AM
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The interesting bit of new info I got from that UFO Hunters was the above referenced mention of the device being identified by name: the WASP-2.

The original WASP was the Williams Aerial Systems Platform made by Williams International, "the world leader in the development, manufacture and support of small gas turbine engines".

If BASSPLYR is correct about this being a flamejet then Williams International seems like exactly the company that would be involved. I wonder if they have patents on this kind of stuff?



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 08:51 PM
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poppycock.

By the accounts this thing was flying in a way that no earth made vehicle could have done at that time. If we had such technology 30 years ago we would have seen its offspring. The witness reports are too bizarre to be attributed to some fantasy military project you skeptics dream up. Im surprised you people dont just pin it on chinese lanterns.

Utter nonsense.

Anybody who thinks the military would fly such a highly top secret, EXTREMELY DANGEROUS craft anywhere NEAR a civilian population is deluded, drunk, off their rocker & insane. A craft SPEWING out radioactive waste no less...Absolutely no way, no how.


Originally posted by BASSPLYR
Project Winterhaven.

Personally I believe that the UFO was really a prototype craft developed out of the Project Winterhaven. PRoject Winterhaven was a project to test out some of T.T. Browns ideas regarding electrogravetics headed up by the govt. Some people claim that the craft was part of "Project Snowbird" to rebuild a crashed UFO or back engineer it. PRoject Snowbird was BS and the real project was Project WInterhaven. ANd the UFO's weren't extraterrestrial but man made, from mans own concepts.

The Flame shooting out the bottom of the craft was T.T. Browns flamejet. THe flamejet was a novel way to build up massive electrical potential which can then be fed to create massive electrical fields. The flamejet basically uses a little generator attached to a jet engine. The generator ionizes the exhaust which then carries the negative electric charge like the conveyor belt on a van de graff generator away from the positive diod or whatever. AT the end of the jet turbine is a series of electric baffles that pick up some of the electric charge and re feed it to the engine like the generator initially did, so as long as there is fuel to keep the jet going the flamejet generator will build up really massive electrical charges sell sustained. No outside electrical power source to ionize the exhaust. the conveyor belt only can move the electrons away from the positive diod so fast or so far to build up a pretty decent voltage. imagine what jet exhaust would do if ionized and set up in such a way to take advantage of the principles of the conveyor belt in the vand de graff generator. Millions of volts can be developed using T.T. Browns flamejet.

So they started building devices with TT Browns flamejet generator in the bottom of them. THat was the flame shooting out the bottom of the craft. THe crafts were supposed to use massive electric fields to move. Utilizing electrogravetic theories for propulsion.

The radiation effects have been explained before in some connection to craft using devices that could create radiation that were electrogravetic in nature and were part of project winterhaven.

Maybe it was the electric fields or some sort of exposure to them that caused the radiation sickness. More likely the craft they had witnessed and got a little too close to was using technology developed out of project skyvault a project maybe conducted under or part of project winterhaven. Project sky vault utilized very powerful microwave beams in the 3 gig range using a technique called Phased Conjugate Microwave Resonance. Phase conjugance is a complicated thing to explain ( although it's a common technique used in modern radars, optical devices, and very high end communication and tracking devices, real high end like Govt only.) But basically it is a technique in which a beam of microwaves can be reflected off an object and have it retrace the exact path it took. the beam doesnt bounce off the object and scatter but stays confined and eventually acts like a capacitor where it bottles up the microwave beam and doesn't let the energy escape out of the beam. it will just keep building up, and building up in strength until either the device fry's and the energy is released or it hased to be momitored and controlled finessed so that it doesn't get out of control. the point is it can develope microwave beams on almost unbelievable power. THese beams are then bounced against the underside of the craft which is made mostly from metamaterials. materials that are biased somehow against microwaves of certian wavelengths and abosore the energy creating a repulsive effect. basically the microwave beam can push around metamaterials. So this microwave beam could push the craft around. THe beam in it's efficiency will lock on to targets on the ground or attempt to. part of the physics behind phase conjugance. if the beam is too narrow it can make objects it's hitting in theory become very irradiated with microwaves. I guess the trick is to spread out the beam like a cone so that it interacts with a wide swath of the ground limiting it's irradiative effects. The beam could have accidently locked on her and roasted her and the car. This beam will also make objects it's bouncing off of act piezo electrically. it will vibrate in tune with the beams frequency. creating a humming sound. people report the crafts having a soft humming or buzzing sound sometimes. that isn't the craft but the ground vibrating in time with the beam. the beam if in too tight a projection will also transfer some of it's energy to the ground. people who have been knocked over by a UFO when it took off suddenly are most likely accidently locked in on by the beam.


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posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 12:50 PM
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This is the same government that gave African American men syphilis and fed radioactive material to mildly retarded teenagers. I do believe they would fly a highly radioactive craft at night. They did send a crew to repave the road overnight, and kept people off of it until they finished. How else would they know that patch of road was radioactive if the craft was unknown? The government has done many shady things in the past, and the flying of a highly radioactive craft would not surprise me. They are keeping it a secret because of the Three Mile Island incident, and the movie "The China Syndrome" made a huge part of our society against nuclear power.



posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 05:02 AM
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I watched UFO Hunters: Alien Fallout the other day and was impressed by the research especially that some military persons stepped forward to Dr. McClelland. He asked for "someone to step forward to tell which kind of radiation they were exposed to in order to help them" and it truly happened.

On UFO Hunters he (as discussed earlier) said that many details were revelead to him so I think it's our turn to conatct him and look for some answers he may give.

I came to the conclusion that in fact the diamond shped object was an UFO - terrestrial and everything really points to www.williams-int.com... , just take a look, there is even a contact form for "Military Product Support", maybe we can mail them too and just ask general Q's, if they were involved in operations in the 80's or if they knew about a "WASP 2" which makes a LOT sense to me!



posted on Feb, 5 2011 @ 12:46 PM
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I just watched a re-run of The Cash-Landrum UFO Incedent on The Bio Channel. I had seen this before, and felt it was a very compelling case. I did a quick search of past posts of the incedent here at ATS, and found it amazing, that a member here, actually was on the road in Texas the night it happened, and had to turn around because the road was blocked, so the pavement could be dug up, and hauled away.

I also did not know the Incedent happened one night after the Rendlesham Forest incedent took place. Both are amazing coincedences. What are the odds, someone would be traveling that lonely farm road in Texas, just after some Craft had been in the roadway, and caused physical damage to Betty Cash, and the two others that were with her, and re-tell their experience here on ATS? Absolutely Amazing!

Some here say that the Craft was a Military Craft, others say it was from another planet. I really don't know what it was, but it must have been something that the US Military did not want known. Why would the road be blocked off at night, and the pavement removed, and repaved? It just does not make sense, unless there was something to hide.

If it was a secret Military craft, what was it doing in the middle of a Texas farm road? Did it have problems, and had to land, and the roadway being the only place to do so? The same goes for an ET Craft. Did it have problems, and had to land, and the roadway was the only clear place to land at that time?

If it was Military, why did Betty Cash have physical damage that was caused by radiation? If it was some type of Nuclear Military Craft, why would they be testing in an area where there are people?

And then you add the fact that the Incedent took place one night after the Redlesham Forest Incedent, that just adds more to the mystery.

Thanks to Doc Velocity for giving us your first-hand account of what you encounterd that night in Texas, over 30 years ago.



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 11:03 AM
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I received a book from my birthday and finally got around to reading it that caused me to recollect this particular incident.

Check out "Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion" by Paul LaViolette PhD published by Bear & Co
(ISBN 978-1-59143-078-0).

See in particular page 263 which specifically references this sighting.

It was also interesting to hear about the WASP and Williams involvement- apparently this was an acronym for the "Williams Aerial Systems Platform" (nicknamed the flying pulpit). So did they get the greenlight to create a nuclear powered "Rev2" that was obviously classified?

My guess? Second generation larger craft that obviously had very serious control problems that strayed off a test reservation, irradiated the victims, then somehow regained control with the helicopters in pursuit.

John Schuessler wrote a book about this particular incident that seemed to indicate the path of the craft and copters were out to sea in the Gulf of Mexico - did they have to ditch the craft out there?

I suppose we'll never know. Makes one wonder if they were operating in conjunction with a carrier task force so perhaps it launched and landed on an aircraft carrier?
edit on 25-11-2012 by aliensporebomb because: typo - sorry!
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