The Abortion Paradox, page 18
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reply posted on 26-1-2009 @ 12:24 PM by elevatedone



reply posted on 2-2-2009 @ 02:31 AM by memyself
I wonder why it is so hard to understand THAT THE SOUL IS IMMORTAL AND, THEREFORE, CANNOT BE KILLED. But ONLY the body!

Sure, that is bad enough! But the soul lives on!

There are hundreds of thousands of witnesses for that in the world who EXPERIENCED it, and many more who never told it but kept it for themselves: THOSE WHO HAD A NEAR-DEATH OUT-OF-BODY EXPERIENCE!

They separated from the body and experienced themselves a souls, but only for a certain time, since the body didn't die after all and they came back into it. Very many of them didn't want to come back but had to, for that reason. The same thing obviously happens when the body really dies, the only difference being that they don't come back into it.

Those who stubbornly adhere to musty old world views, either a materialistic one (so called "scientific" - scientific prejudice!) or a politicized indoctrinating one of a Church that is no more original Christianity - seek all possible ways to explain this away, but the facts are really OVERWHELMING!

- The enormously high number of such experiences, and
- the very high REPRODUCIBILITY of them. meaning that they are almost all very similar.

Reproducibility is in science taken as an evidence that something is true. If in repeated experiences or experiments the result is the same, it is reproducible. But in this case this criterion is not accepted, it is only because people would have to do what they don't want: Change their thinking and modify their view of the world.

Yes, abortion is killing! BUT not of the soul! And, as I have repeatedly stated here, this COULD in many cases (and certainly not all) for that soul actually be a better option than a high risk to be born into what turns out to be a hell for it!

This is NOT meant as an excuse for abortion, and - as I have also repeatedly stated - those who abort are IMMATURE and therefore anyway not fit for being parents, and because of that immaturity they are not able to understand this. It instead is seeing it from the soul's perspective.


reply posted on 18-2-2009 @ 01:08 PM by starsyren
reply to post by saint4God



No, I am not my parents. I'm a woman who's lain awake at night, I'm a woman who knows.... And who are you?



reply posted on 18-2-2009 @ 01:34 PM by Irish M1ck
reply to post by The Bald Champion



Absolutely. You wouldn't exist if EITHER ONE of them chose not to have an abortion.

Other people would exist in your place, and no one would know that they should be missing you, so it wouldn't be sad per se, but you would cease to exist (along with many others out there).

Take from it what you will, but don't show gratefulness. They'll just accuse you of not caring about the fetus that was aborted for you to live. They are vicious in their insensitivity and attacks.

When you are in the womb, they care, but the second you leave it, you're on your own with these people.

[edit on 2/18/2009 by Irish M1ck]


reply posted on 18-2-2009 @ 03:17 PM by Aermacchi
Originally posted by Irish M1ck
reply to
post by The Bald Champion



Absolutely. You wouldn't exist if EITHER ONE of them chose not to have an abortion.

Other people would exist in your place, and no one would know that they should be missing you, so it wouldn't be sad per se, but you would cease to exist (along with many others out there).

Take from it what you will, but don't show gratefulness. They'll just accuse you of not caring about the fetus that was aborted for you to live. They are vicious in their insensitivity and attacks.

When you are in the womb, they care, but the second you leave it, you're on your own with these people.

[edit on 2/18/2009 by Irish M1ck]


No Mick, he wouldn't exist if his mother wouldn't have had SEX!

Now I know many with the exception of you perhaps are saying "well DuH!" but the fact is THAT is what caused his coming into existance NOT an abortion! Causality is an interesting subject. Inspite of all the twisted logic I have seen in this thread the only reason he is here can be traced to the act that gave him birth in the first place and what caused that was sex plane and simple for if she didn't have sex I can guarantee you he would never exist. It doesn't matter how many abortions people have or that they have them at all. You know how I know this is true is because SEX is also the reason people get abortions so it is the act of sex that comes before any of this. Your moms abortion didn't ensure your existance it was the act of sex in BOTH cases because if she hadn't had sex she wouldn't have got the abortion YOU say was the cause of your existance which may or may not be true but what I can guarantee is that had she not had sex again nothing else would have mattered.

Your theory doesn't talk to HOW something comes into existance but to how something already existing gets destroyed. Abortion only Guarantee what doesn't get to exist NOT what does, who shouldn't be here not who should, who won't be here, not who will.

What guarantees your right to be here had nothing to do with abortion and in many cases had nothing to do with the one that existed before them but was taken out of existence BY abortion but it could very well be the reason they don't have a brother or sister to call on.

The way you are looking at it, Id feel pretty guilty and pretty self cented thinking my brother or sister HAD to die because something in the cosmos said MICK is comming and we have to make room for him! Rather this may be what you are dealing with and you found some way to make abortion a virtue whether you admit it or not.

So rather than put yourself through all that, you can always place the cause of your being here today where it rightfully belongs,,

by the grace of God


reply posted on 15-3-2009 @ 06:16 PM by Irish M1ck
reply to post by Aermacchi



...It is obvious you will not get the point, no matter how simple I make the explanation. Let's just move on.


reply posted on 15-3-2009 @ 07:26 PM by Aermacchi
Originally posted by Irish M1ck
reply to
post by Aermacchi



...It is obvious you will not get the point, no matter how simple I make the explanation. Let's just move on.



Just count the many others in this thread that have asked you what the point of this was and you may understand their never was a point to this thread. It was always,,

pointless


reply posted on 30-6-2011 @ 12:58 PM by aero56
reply to post by Irish M1ck



What does the Bible say about abortion? Nothing! The word abortion is not mentioned in the Bible. This is the only reference made to a "miscarriage". Ex. 21:22-25 "If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her and yet no mischief follow; he shall be surely punished as according to the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shall give life for life, eye for eye and tooth for tooth...........

So, the Bible orders the death penalty for murder of a human being, but not for the expulsion of a fetus.

When does life begin? According to the Bible, life begins at BIRTH. , when the baby draws it's first breath. The bible defines life as "breath". Genesis 2:7, when God "breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul". www.freethoughtpedia.com...

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