Originally posted by Aermacchi
Not as easy as you think, Mick, when you say you wouldn't feel a thing. does that mean you wouldn't or couldn't? You see that is hearsay and conjecture is not proof it is what you believe but that isn't evidence
care to try again?
How can I feel anything when I don't exist?
FOUR TIMES????
What?
yeah that works fine but only in people that exist in the hear and now mick and ya know why??
Because That's the way genetics works
I'm not sure you have any grasp on what you are even saying. That statement literally makes no sense at all. And it's "here and now".
Hey Mick If I was minus 8000 and brought to + 5000 which is something I can prove happens here, it STILL would have no bearing on this topic so what the hell are you going off topic about this time!
It's going to be a long road getting there at this rate.
Mick you have no idea what I have done and I have had 8 in five months can you beat that? Not that it matters anymore
Damn, you must have really gotten a lot of points docked then. However, I don't believe you not knowing something has stopped you from passing judgment time and time again, so I don't see where you have an inch to stand on.
I didn't plagiarize a damn thing mick, the logical fallacy I quoted in the bracketed external quotes was one I got in an email but who sent it is none of your business.
You're right, I guess that evens us out from when you falsely accused me of plagiarizing this thread.
I guess I just blocked it out when I realized that you tried to use a religious text to talk about circular logic.
If you are goiong to use that frame of logic then practice what you preach smart guy because I see you using a lot of quotes of mine without a single link to the source.
What am I going to source back to? This thread? Yes Mick it is the one that burns religious people and THAT is why a religious example is GIVEN and why it defeats it.
Atheist's generally know more about this area of debate then any Christian I have known but if you ask Ashley, Ill bet ya she will tell you what I think she will and that is YOU AIN'T DEALIN WITH SOMEONE RIGHT OFF THE TURNIP TRUCK and logical fallacy is something not many will know as well as she knows this christian does and why.
Yes, I know AshleyD quite well from these forums. She's a great person and we both hold a great of deal respect for each other. Trust me, if I could talk to her instead of you, it would be my pleasure.
And how you get that it was "defeated" by one stupid example is beyond me. That's hardly a proof, but I guess it goes right back to the whole circular logic problem.
Support? I am not asking you to provide your friends or the peanut gallery to come here with pom poms in hand I am asking for PROOF not support.
I cannot provide proof of this anymore than you can provide proof that it is incorrect, or that God exists or doesn't exist, etc. I would, however, say that the probability that I am correct greatly outweighs the latter.
Luckily for you, you've got your little "abortion is murder" peanut gallery with you.
I don't know,, I have never used differen't spem and differn't eggs to create me, have you ?
Didn't think so, but what makes that even more pointless is attempting it from outside the time continuum where anything is anyones guess
Thus proving that you have no idea about genetics.
Genetics
Now this is basic, so I am hoping it won't fly right over your head like the rest of the stuff I have posted.
If identical female twins get pregnant by the same man will their children be exactly the same if they are the same sex?
Interesting question! The quick answer is that the children will not be the same. If you think about it, this scenario isn’t really that different than the same man and woman having two kids of the same sex.
Get that?
As you know, our DNA helps determine what we look like, how we act, what diseases we might get and a whole lot more. And ultimately what DNA we get is determined from the egg and sperm that combined to make us. So to understand why siblings are so different from each other, we need to figure out how sperm and eggs get their DNA.
Okay, so DNA is basically a blueprint for who we are. It determines the basics of what we look like, what diseases we get, and many other factors like personality traits.
Most of our cells have 23 pairs of chromosomes for a total of 46. One set of 23 comes from mom and the other 23 from dad.
The egg and sperm cells are an exception—they have only 23 chromosomes each. A sperm from the man combines with a woman’s egg in her womb to make a zygote. The zygote ends up with a total of 46 chromosomes and can now grow into a baby.
I truly hope you actually aren't learning anything here. Did they talk about this in your religious circular logic text?
Back to your question. Identical twins have the same genetic material, but as you can see, every egg they both make is different. Every sperm a man makes is different.
Hence the chances of their babies being identical are pretty close to zero. The kids wouldn’t be anymore alike than any brother or sister.
Funny. Close to zero... that sounds almost exactly like what I said a few pages back. Oh wait, that is what I said.
For 23 chromosomes, there are over 10,000,000,000,000 possibilities*. In other words, there is a 1 in 10 trillion chance of having the exact same baby. This chance is essentially zero.
I really didn't think I'd have to actually post up the numbers (I thought it was pretty obvious about the odds). Of course, there is no telling when you factor in "God".
Originally posted by Aermacchi
I have no idea where this is coming from but it is obvious yo uare missing the point, this isn't about one life having value over another it is about the ONLY lives that matter and that is those That EXIST! and only those that exist! Who the hell cares about lives that won't ? or those we THINK MIGHT just because we want to?
It is POINTLESS Circular Logic Mick plane AND
SIMPLE!
Ohh, okay. So the ones who were aborted don't exist, therefore, don't matter.
Gotcha.
[edit on 1/20/2009 by Irish M1ck]
