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reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 03:27 AM by Winsor
reply to post by Marshall Ormus



Reasonable argument.
This is turning into a vampire thread for sure now.



reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 03:31 AM by fooffstarr
reply to post by Marshall Ormus



You kind of made my point for me.

Goths, Emos etc. Are a clique... A group of NORMAL PEOPLE with similar interests, likes, dislikes, fashion sense (or lack there of) etc.

Even if a group of people, a clique, wants to call themselves Vampires and hang out, it doesn't make them so. They are not immortal undead that feed off the living to sustain themselves. They are people trying to find their place in life.

All this media hype about hollywood Vampires has caused another boom in the 'coolness' of this clique.

Just because it's all over the film screens and the occasional teen thinks it is cool to be a pretend vampire does not make it a topic worthy of generating 6 of the top discussions on the ATS Cryptozoology board.

There is at least some weak evidence for most of the cryptids discussed on this board, but real Vampires are a mix of history, mythology and Hollywood spin. They don't exist.

EDIT: And oh, please don't relate fictional Vampires to the countless REAL PEOPLE dying in Gaza. It dishonors their memory. They are REAL and are suffering, Vampires are fictional and irrelevant.

[edit on 15-1-2009 by fooffstarr]


reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 04:30 AM by Marshall Ormus
Originally posted by fooffstarr
reply to
post by Marshall Ormus



You kind of made my point for me.

Goths, Emos etc. Are a clique... A group of NORMAL PEOPLE with similar interests, likes, dislikes, fashion sense (or lack there of) etc.

Even if a group of people, a clique, wants to call themselves Vampires and hang out, it doesn't make them so. They are not immortal undead that feed off the living to sustain themselves. They are people trying to find their place in life.


I never said it did make them Immortal or undead, I was merely picking up on the fact you labeled all the people following the Vamp trend as Goth when most Goths wouldn't be seen dead with followers of the Vamp subculture. What next blaming the rise of Neo-Nazi-skinhead style threads on Buddhist monks because they have similar hair styles that is to say bald.



All this media hype about hollywood Vampires has caused another boom in the 'coolness' of this clique.


Don't like it, can't ignore then fine, but for the love of something then don't create a thread and contribute to making the publicity of your hated topic even greater...


Just because it's all over the film screens and the occasional teen thinks it is cool to be a pretend vampire does not make it a topic worthy of generating 6 of the top discussions on the ATS Cryptozoology board.


As I said before many of the threads in question are from years ago 2 - 6 years ago. You can't blame the whole of the Vampire threads on Twilight or some other Hollywood craze when only a third at best were inspired by Hollywood.

You might think its not a worthy Cryptozoological topic and to some extent I somewhat agree with you on that one, but its not my forum or yours the staff on here put the Vampire threads in Crypto because that is where they actually want them (they would be moved otherwise). So since the threads are in the category that staff want them in and people post more in or about them then the other Crypto creatures (Sea Monsters, Bigfoot..etc) they are the most popular threads in that category.


There is at least some weak evidence for most of the cryptids discussed on this board, but real Vampires are a mix of history, mythology and Hollywood spin. They don't exist.


Why are you attacking me as if I said they did exist? your adding into this post a lot of guff that was never even raised. Your making a Vampire thread out of a Anti-Vampire Thread, seriously. Just because I disagree with your means of Controlling a topic or discussion doesn't mean I am a follower of the topic your hating on. Seriously, this is the FIRST time I have posted in a topic linking to Vampires. I have no real interest in this field and even my Cryptid interest is very defined taste wise (Put simply I could care less about any cryptid other that Oceanic/ deep sea ones thus why I rarely post in threads about other types of Cryptid)

EDIT: And oh, please don't relate fictional Vampires to the countless REAL PEOPLE dying in Gaza. It dishonors their memory. They are REAL and are suffering, Vampires are fictional and irrelevant.

[edit on 15-1-2009 by fooffstarr]


Excuse me? I, in no way linked the two things in such a way. It was an EXAMPLE I merely said why not for the sakes of manageability do the same for all topics. Your complaint was that the same stuff crops up in all the vamp threads (or most of them) so to can be said for the numerous threads on other subjects. I in no way disrespected the dead in the middle east, I know they are real and I never said that Vampires were.

You claim that your not trying to control or censor things but it is obvious that your rants and attempt derail your own thread by putting words in my mouth are contradicting yourself.

So to wrap this up I will say this:

1) I have NO affiliation with the Goth, Vamp...etc subcultures. Stop treating
me as if I did

2) I never said Vampires exist or existed. Stop acting like I did

3) I in no way said Gaza was a less worthwhile topic than Vampires nor did I
directly link the two things. Stop insinuating that I did.

4) Go out for a breather, don't post if all your going to do is rant (your own
declaration) or make stuff up or see things that were never there.


reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 04:40 AM by fooffstarr
reply to post by Marshall Ormus



You raise some fair points and I do apologize if I came off harsh.

It wasn't you I was attacking, or intending to attack. It just frustrates me when a topic, that is (in my opinion) based on nothing more than fantasy and trends generates duplicate topics that come to nothing more than server clutter.

But, you are right. Whether we like it or not, it isn't our forum to judge. And I know that this particular folder is where they wish the Vampire threads to be stored... I just wonder if they had anticipated the extent that the topic would balloon too.

You are right about the dates too. Several are old threads. But, in most other parts of ATS, if a thread is made based on the same article, idea or discussion as another, it is closed and participants are referred to the earlier topic.

It just seems that here in Crypto the Vampire topics are all pretty much the same discussion on the same topic... Thread titles may vary slightly, but the content is the same.

Why not create a stickied, or at least 'official' vampire discussion topic that all the stuff can be placed into?

If new evidence, a new news article or whatever emerges, that would warrant a new topic and separate discussion. But my question is... why so many on the same thing without that differentiation?
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