Originally posted by redled




Yes, and in England we don't beat women for being....... women. It is known that Scots beat their women and so it is acceptable. Scots hate the English, because we persecute them by giving them more settlement in government cash than any other part of our region, but an English flag on a pretty face deserves a Glasgow kiss.

I hate both Rangers and Celtic, but would not dare say so above the border.

Women beaters, mars bars and deep fried hate. Leave them to their filth.

And this is why we openly admit to disliking you. Attitudes like that.

I live in Scotland, my parents are scottish, their parents are scottish - and so on.

Ive always been brought up with "You cant hit a woman", and thats pretty much an attitude commonly held by most men in Scotland.

Fact is you get drunken louts in every part of the UK, ive known people in England to be beaten up for "Being Scottish" - but as everyone knows thats " Drunken a*holes out for an excuse to beat someone up"

And while were known for " Disliking The English " - its "traditional", we dont dislike English people. I know tons of English people living here, including my aunt and two cousins. Ive got plenty of English friends, I dont hate them. (I hate the guy I quoted mind, what a git).

If England got invaded tomorrow, the Scots would be there fighting with you, or atleast wed try before we got told to bugger off by the army and let them get on with it. (Plenty of Scots in our army )

Note: The " We " doesnt include your average drunken ned/chav criminal type, who will hate anything they want and generally beat people up - but you get them in every part of the UK

Note 2: Ive openly admitted to hating both Rangers and Celtic, nobody really gives a crap.. unless youre part of some roving bank of football hooligans (which england are famous for) , youre not going to get beaten up for saying it.

[edit on 15/1/09 by dawa]

Originally posted by dawa
And while we "dislike" the English, including me - its not english individuals - I have an english aunt and 2 english cousins, and a ton of english friends, its "The English" we dont like

But if someone were to invade England tomorrow with a message " Right, you Scots keep out of this and youll be fine " , wed be right in the middle with you as fast as we could drive down there.

This is a disgusting statement, an absolute abomination. You have a go at the English and then come up with this? Don't you see the hypocrisy? Don't you understand that you are part of the problem? Don't you get the fact you are distributing hate?

Oh i give up on people i really do.

meh, two drunk people attack someone for no real reason -happens all the time, all over the world.

some scotish people hate english people for the hundreds of years of abuse they got, some english people are so snobbish they think they're better than the scots which angers the english hating scots even more, the same sick cycle that goes on all over the world.

this isn't proper racism, its small minded stupidity maybe but it's hardly a hate crime -assalt and battery should get them enough of a sentence when they're in court. esp as it was against a woman.

meh, the english have done enough bad things to scotland over the years and they resent their life being run from london -some big mouth brit comes to their urban slum and starts shooting her mouth off and acting like the queen, she probably could have avoided offending the locals. -that said, the guys ARE very much in the wrong -you don't hit anyone unless you have to, certainly not a 'fragile person' such a woman (sorry feminists)

oh and i should say i don't hate the english, the nation you come from doesn't dictate your character and besides i am english

Originally posted by dawa
But if someone were to invade England tomorrow with a message " Right, you Scots keep out of this and youll be fine " , wed be right in the middle with you as fast as we could drive down there.

looks perfectly sensible to me, the scots are a bull headed people, as soon as you tell a scotsman to stay out of something he'll fall over himself to get involved. seriously, try it, "hoi you, keep out of this" almost always leads to a fight in scotland.

[edit on 15/1/09 by pieman]

Originally posted by YourForever

I was there.

This is not down to a hollywood movie.

I was there too. I still am.

I never said it was, I was merely illustrating that there had been a rise in anti-English violence that could be attributed to that movie.

Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
This is a disgusting statement, an absolute abomination. You have a go at the English and then come up with this? Don't you see the hypocrisy? Don't you understand that you are part of the problem? Don't you get the fact you are distributing hate?

Oh i give up on people i really do.

You're talking like very mild hypocrisy is the end of the world. Guess what, it isn't. Maybe you should put down the Daily Express for a while and get on with your life sans outrage. I know it's traditional for us English to get our knickers in a twist over nothing, but this is a bit much, no?

There is widespread dislike of the English north of the border. For some of the Scottish contributors here to deny that fact in order to make Scotland look good on an international forum is just burying their heads in the sand.

The word most commonly used in Scotland after the adjective English is ... bastard, as in "he's an English bastard". That wording is used by folks of all classes, ages right across the country. It's used to their faces, it's spoken behind their backs and sometimes like this case it's followed by something rather more sinister.

Why is that ? It's not as if Scotland is currently at any great financial disadvantage, some parts of England are considerably worse off than even the poorest areas of Scotland.

Employment rates are broadly similar, although more Scots are employed in the public sector than down south. The Scots do enjoy higher public spending per capita than down south, although not so much greater when distances, more rural communities etc are factored into the equation. Mortality rates are similar, with little pockets of misery like Glasgow/Lanarkshire bringing the overall stats down. Scottish education & the distinctive legal system are still highly regarded both within the UK and continental Europe too. Scotland still enjoys a great sense of community, where you can speak to anyone about anything even though you've only just met them in the street in passing. It is a great country to live in. And visit too.

So where's the sense of grievance against our southern neighbours coming from ? I don't even think it's directed at all the English, just some of them. Newcastle, Liverpool, Yorkshire, Cornwall, they're all exempt from the the hate because they're basically us, disconnected from the where the real power lies and basically forgotton about.

The Southern English, the Home Counties it's those people who are despised. The ruling classes, the persons to whom we've been doffing our caps the last few hundred years, the Barbour jacket brigade who come up in their Range Rovers for fishing & shooting and being general pains in the arse, the self same toffee nosed twits who either attend or participate in the Edinburgh Festival in their youth (and how many Scottish acts ever participate in that ?)

End of the day the Scots are no longer prepared to take dictat from London, we're no longer afraid to say that either & if the powers that be don't like it then tough. If that ruffles a few feathers alls good in the world.

Originally posted by sotp
I was there too. I still am.

I never said it was, I was merely illustrating that there had been a rise in anti-English violence that could be attributed to that movie.

Or perhaps something more mundane, like "the benefits of the boom under New Labour aren't filtering down to the very poor as much as anyone else".

Originally posted by NatureBoy
*blah blah fairy communist pish*

Guess what, poor people can be arseholes too. I know, it shocks me to my LMC core.

Well I didnt think id get away with calling anyone a bastard on the forum :p


Basic point is this, and jBrereton above will back me up here im sure (hes known me for years, AND HES ENGLISH :O )

You English are far too sensitive for your own good " ya Bastard English " , other than when its random thugs out trying to start trouble (and once again you get them everywhere), is generally kept between friends. Id never say it to a stranger, thats rude and quite frankly out of order. Ive said it to Jb there a ton of times, but its just something to try and get on his nerves a bit when hes annoying me :p

The fact is the "hate" isnt REAL ABSOLOUTE HATRED, you dont see me getting some bombs from somewhere, tying it to the front of a cola bottle, shoving a footpump in the bottom and launching some missiles at England do you? :p

The most youll get is a heated debate, followed by - possibly - a chat about rubbish the trains are running at the moment. I might try and twist that to being your fault if youre english. (JBs had that )

Originally posted by dawa
You English are far too sensitive for your own good

Why do you hate freedom, Dawa?