The anger and pain of our young...., page 1

reply to post by cancerian42

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Please, just take pity on my old grungy outdated bones when you guys finally Rise and Conquer! You kids scare me sometimes...

The reason why our strange youth are going mental, getting depressed, taking medication, taking illegal drugs, fighting, commiting acts of rage, getting addicted to computer games/films, listening to angry music....

This is nothing new. But I do feel that our current youth of today lack clear direction for different reasons...

Is maybe because (as we know children grow faster and absorb the world around us at a remarkable rate) they are seeing how messed up the world REALLY is, and yet watching us adults freak out, moan, patronise each other and not do anything about it...

Change was slow before the 1800's. Children lived as their parents did, suddenly humans started to develop the ability to develop enormous amounts of technology and culture in short periods of time. Youth "culture" did not even exist on a widespread scale before the 1950's and early incarnations of Rock'n'Roll. When you grew up before this you listened to the same/similar music, you like same/similar things etc.

Back then people's lifestyle would only have marginal changes from one generation to the next. Now how we live is being redefined every year. New ways to socialize, faster pacing, technology etc. etc.

Jam321 said

Most of what you said here could apply to your average adult. Could it also be that adults are setting the example for their kids? I know many adults who are hooked on meth or on their computers.

Jam summed up something I've believed for a long time. Adults have no idea how to live in this world. We run it, but we really don't know what were doing. Once they settle into their jobs, stop socializing and consume consume consume. Technologically we have evolved at a break neck pace. Socially we haven't quite figured out what works in this society and many many people are filling dramatically unfulfilled in their lives IMO.

Back to OP.

Also consider the fact that the spoiled kids, the ones who get away with anything, unpunished, sometimes rewarded by their parents as a way of keeping them under control, then go on to succeed in jobs that only their psychological developments can allow for.... ruthless corporate swines and their ilk.

Oh and let's not forget they are being bombarded by the crap on television, the spin of the media, the strict social regimes of school and college (fashion, music, gangs) and then they have to sit back and watch us responsible adults do NOTHING ABOUT ANY OF IT....

People of power/wealth getting away with things cause of position is definitely not new.

As for TV, you are right, I believe firmly that the constant bombardment of images and sound effects us on a far deeper level than just buying stuff. It reduces our existence to passive. In the past when people wanted entertainment they went and got with friends. Now you buy DVD's etc.

Yep, most adult do nothing...you are completely correct their. This is something WE must change, I feed the homeless and want to get more involved in helping retirees. Act locally, groove globally.

We are about the same age Mr. Lizard and we ask some of the same questions. I hope you find answers better than mine.

Perhaps this clip sums up our situation.

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reply to post by mr-lizard

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I've heard some pretty crazy messed up things from my parents' youth generation in the 70's and when I compare them to now, I don't even see that big of a difference. It's just that now it seems like the population grown, so we see more of it.

In regards to the multitude of different influences to behavior with today's youth, the only significant difference is our societies lenience with taboos that were just less publicly known a few generations back, even though they were still going on. (thank you TV/Internet:up

reply to post by asmeone2

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Star for yah Asmeone

I have said this all along to my own newly 20 daughter. The world is full of choices and options and no one seems to teach the youth how to make choices that will reflect upon their futures in a positive way.

Its a NOW society. Immediate rewards and grossly delayed punishments/corrections.

The idea that time, effort and investment pay off seems lost in many kids I've talked to, worked with and helped raise. They don't seem to want to nor seem capable of understanding the concepts. If they can't have or see the rewards NOW they lose interest and move on to the next big immediate reward.

I am currently watching my 20 year old SMART daughter do this and it infuriates me and worries me. Even though she has been taught to consider options, work hard for what she wants and to value the rewards she earns...society and peers have pretty much undermined my efforts.

She's had 22 jobs in this last year and it's everyone else fault that she can't manage. She did have an apartment, was enrolled in College, had a job and the time and investment was too much for her...she couldn't maintain the interest and dropped out of it all to get a more immediate "fix" of good feelings.

Now she's in a youth shelter, can't hold down a job, may not be able to get back into school, has debt at only 20 that I don't even have at 40...I can't tell you how hard tough love is!!! I'm crushed at having to say no and watching her go without what I consider to be basic needs.

Her friends sadly, even the working ones are of the same mind.

She has the same outlook on her health...bi-polar and untreated. She'd rather get her "meds" in her own way without the effort of facing the illness and investing effort into becoming healthy. Takes too much time to get it all together and the rewards don't come easily enough or aren't as grand as she'd hope for.

many kids it seems make things far more complex than they really are, and I think this is to justify their behaviour as opposed to things really being that complex.

There are those kids however that get it. Either on their own or through tight families...I am hopeful that my girl will get it after she falls on her face a few more times...it's just so hard to watch and not try to rush in and "save" her.

Faith comes in handy sometimes

It's sad that as a society in general we aren't taught that simplicity can be very rewarding and that excess doesn't equate success or happiness.

the value system is a bit shot I fear.

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