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Originally posted by intrepid
And it's this type of stance that perpetuates the insanity. What did these women do to deserve this other than being born Israeli?
Originally posted by vox2442
Originally posted by intrepid
And it's this type of stance that perpetuates the insanity. What did these women do to deserve this other than being born Israeli?
Serve in the IDF.
Two years is the mandatory minimum for women.
Originally posted by intrepid
It's 21 months actually. So you're saying that because they served a mandatory tour of duty that makes them a pariah to the world?
Originally posted by kid_of_3NKi
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Know what?
If I were a jew during these days i would be so deeply ashamed of my gov's killing actions that i wouldn't dare to talk jewish in public so ppl can recognise me as an Israeli.. and imo that would be an expected behavour!
Ko3
Originally posted by vox2442
Yes.
If all Gaza can be punished indiscriminately by the IDF, then I see no reason why the same treatment should not be extended to it's veterans.
Originally posted by intrepid
Originally posted by vox2442
Yes.
If all Gaza can be punished indiscriminately by the IDF, then I see no reason why the same treatment should not be extended to it's veterans.
Ah but what if they weren't in the IDF. There are exceptions to mandatory conscription. Such as attending higher education. Do you still think the same?
Originally posted by vox2442
Yes.
May as well extend them the same courtesy they extend the Palestinians.
Originally posted by intrepid
Originally posted by vox2442
Yes.
May as well extend them the same courtesy they extend the Palestinians.
Gotcha. You just hate on Israelis without thought. Just checking. You DO know that this is the attitude that keeps this crap going, right?
Originally posted by vox2442
Why do you assume there's no thought behind it?
Get off your high horse, mr. moderator.
Ah but what if they weren't in the IDF. There are exceptions to mandatory conscription. Such as attending higher education. Do you still think the same?
www.haaretz.com...
Olmert, too, has gotten a popularity boost, with a 33 percent popularity rating this week compared to an average of 14 percent since the Second Lebanon War, about two and a half years ago.
Originally posted by masonwatcher
I read that Olmert's popularity rating is increasing due to the Gaza onslaught and appears to have been forgiven for his financial indiscretions by the Israeli voter.
www.haaretz.com...
Olmert, too, has gotten a popularity boost, with a 33 percent popularity rating this week compared to an average of 14 percent since the Second Lebanon War, about two and a half years ago.
Mrs Bennie said she did not disagree that Israel was committing crimes against children.
Originally posted by masonwatcher
Israel has a multiparty system with the majority of the knesset achieved at roughly 30 to 35%. The US is a two party state.
The key point is that Olmert was in the low teens in his ratings but achieved over thirty. The approvals he got was a share of the over all total that was shared by Ehud Barack and Livni who are also competing for the position of leader.
All three are from the Kadima party and in charge of the attack on Gaza. You will find the other 60%+ of approval with them. It is a three person horse race to be the next prime minister and the voters love them. In the end Kadima wins.
Over 80% of Israeli adults support the conflict. The rest are Arabs, people of conscience and some war veterans.
Originally posted by kid_of_3NKi
reply to post by blupblup
As an individual you are responsible for your country
, just as you (and every other human being) are responsible for what human kind does on earth in the bigger picture!
Every individual is part of the collective and thus IS responsible, whether you like to hear about that FACT or not!
Ko3
A multi-party system is a system in which three or more political parties have the capacity to gain control of government separately or in coalition. Unlike a single-party system (or a non-partisan democracyFacts About Non-partisan democracy Non-partisan democracy is a system of representative government or organization such that universal and periodic elections...
www.absoluteastronomy.com...
Israel is a parliamentary republic with a 120-seat, unicameral legislature called the Knesset. The president, a largely ceremonial head of state, is elected by the Knesset for a seven-year term. Executive power is exercised by the prime minister and cabinet, who must be collectively approved by the Knesset. A government can be brought down by a no-confidence vote in the legislature. The prime minister, usually the leader of the majority party or coalition in the Knesset, is nominated by the president. However, between 1996 and 2001, the prime minister was chosen in a direct popular vote. Members of the Knesset are elected to four-year terms, but the prime minister may call new elections before the end of a term. In elections, voters choose among national party lists according to a strict proportional representation system. In recent years, the minimum vote threshold for a party to enter the Knesset has been gradually increased, to the current 2 percent. Nevertheless, a dozen or more parties continue to be represented in the body
www.democracyweb.org...
Originally posted by blupblup
I would have thought it was the other way round?
As an individual.... that is exactly what i am.. an individual... a human being, not a brit or a man or a singer or a whatever.. i am an individual.
I am not a representation of my country and my country is certainly not a representation of me!!
That's great... so by your logic YOU are responsible for all wars that have passed, the state of the economy (currently), 9/11 and all other recent tragedies?
It's a nice idea you have, but not an entirely accurate one?