One in five Guantanamo Bay detainees is on hunger strike, page 1

One in five Guantanamo Bay detainees is on hunger strike

www.timesonline.co.uk

Nearly a fifth of the detainees held at Guantanamo Bay are on hunger strike with the aim of attracting the attention of Barack Obama, military officials have told the Times, with most of them being force fed.

Of the 248 inmates inside the controversial US detention facility, 44 are refusing food, and 33 of those are receiving nutrition with tubes that are forced up their noses and into their stomachs

(visit the link for the full news article)

Why are these people still locked up in this illegal prison. This prison should have never even opened in the first place. Locking people up without due process under trumped up charges and hastilly encated laws is guess againsat the law.

Time for the American Government to close the place and say they did it all wrong.

www.timesonline.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)

reply to post by nyk537

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This has been answered... but you decided to "leave" the thread after being shown up.

Also, i have posted in the other thread www.abovetopsecret.com...
Rumsfeld is being sued... and hopefully bush too.

legaltimes.typepad.com...

Excellent news





[edit on 14/1/09 by blupblup]

reply to post by nyk537

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Well thank you.

I wouldn't want you to "appear" like you supported this abomination anyway.
Can't be a good thing huh?

If you see something against T+C's... report it

reply to post by nyk537

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Also, You dodged every point i raised(on the original thread) and didn't "get into" anything with me

And making allusions that i was against T+C's or was being rude is not fair.

In your own info... more than half who were detained there were released without charge?
The percentage of "possible" terrorists is so small that it's pathetic?

You did support it

Originally posted by nyk537
In my opinion, they should stay right where they are…in GITMO.

That was my problem.
You supporting a facility/prison/whatever that the ENTIRE WORLD is against... i mean seriously...?

Do you honestly think it's ok to lock people up with no trial, no law on your side and without the right to a lawyer or a fair (and FAIR being the operative word) trial?

[edit on 14/1/09 by blupblup]

Originally posted by nyk537
What the entire world is for or against is really none of my concern. I support or stand against things based on what I believe, not what the rest of the world believes.

Me neither.. but the fact the entire world is against it, including Americans, Lawyers and many, many others... for ME.. says something.

I linked to torture methods that were revealed by US agencies... C.I.A. etc.
You didn't want to know...

The ICRC reports of several activities which, it said, were "tantamount to torture": exposure to loud noise or music, prolonged extreme temperatures, or beatings. It also reported that a Behavioral Science Consultation Team (BSCT), also called 'Biscuit,' and military physicians communicated confidential medical information to the interrogation teams (weaknesses, phobias, etc.), resulting in the prisoners losing confidence in their medical care.

Source

Try and search and find a little bit of info about this ILLEGAL abomination...

In a foreword[165] to Amnesty International's International Report 2005,[166] the Secretary General, Irene Khan, made a passing reference to the Guantánamo Bay prison as "the gulag of our times," breaking an internal AI policy on not comparing different human rights abuses. The report reflected ongoing claims of prisoner abuse at Guantánamo and other military prisons.[167][168][169]

Source

[edit on 14/1/09 by blupblup]

I proposed this in another thread the other day.

Just had a brilliant idea while reading an add for my local animal shelter.

"Adopt-A-Detainee" For all of those who pity these poor detainees. You can sign up to have one stay in your house. You can feed him, take him for walks, take him to church on Sunday, play in the parks with him. Just don't feed him after midnight or get him wet.

Save my tax dollars and take on the burden yourselves.

edit for spelling. The Scotch is kicking in. [edit on 13-1-2009 by jibeho]

No one wants these guys. It is a legal mess but what the hell do you do with them when you also have this problem when they are released.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Pentagon said on Tuesday that 61 former detainees from its military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, appear to have returned to terrorism since their release from custody. Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said 18 former detainees are confirmed and 43 suspected of "returning to the fight."

www.reuters.com...

Originally posted by magicmushroom


Why are these people still locked up in this illegal prison. This prison should have never even opened in the first place. Locking people up without due process under trumped up charges and hastilly encated laws is guess againsat the law.

Time for the American Government to close the place and say they did it all wrong.

www.timesonline.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)

Hmmm,

perhaps this story might explain-

www.reuters.com...

"The Pentagon said on Tuesday that 61 former detainees from its military prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, appear to have returned to terrorism since their release from custody."

"Pentagon officials say that about 110 detainees should never be released because of the potential danger they pose to U.S. interests."

"Washington has cleared 50 of the detainees for release but cannot return them to their home countries because of the risk they would be tortured or persecuted there."

reply to post by nyk537

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Fair enough, although your comments and language lead me to believe otherwise.

The point is that America locked these people up illegally... why should anyone else have to take them?
As i said, I'm happy to do it just so that this joke closes down... but really, you created the problem.. YOU deal with it.
I referenced other stories of detainees being released back to the UK and being released without charge... point being, they did nothing wrong.

I know you are talking about the ridiculously small amount of people that "might" be a threat, but then put them on TRIAL... in a proper COURT and deal with it.

Originally posted by blupblup
reply to post by nyk537

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Fair enough, although your comments and language lead me to believe otherwise.

The point is that America locked these people up illegally... why should anyone else have to take them?
As i said, I'm happy to do it just so that this joke closes down... but really, you created the problem.. YOU deal with it.
I referenced other stories of detainees being released back to the UK and being released without charge... point being, they did nothing wrong.

I know you are talking about the ridiculously small amount of people that "might" be a threat, but then put them on TRIAL... in a proper COURT and deal with it.

What you have to understand is that there are different burdens of proof for criminal prosecution, and the detainees in Gitmo, detained for various reasons(captured in the act of hostilities, detained for purposes of intel analysis, etc...)

Here is an interesting addition to the discussion of all these "innocent" prisoners at Gitmo...

Pentagon: 61 ex-Gitmo inmates return to terrorism

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