I've been on disability for over 5 years and last year they expected me to file just to possibly get 300 bucks. I was mad about the gas hike and felt it was peanuts as a kick back, so I refused to do it. I haven't had to file in over 3 years and wasn't about to now. Many elderly who hadn't had to file were also expected to and were left out.

I'm now worried about losing my SSDI if you people don't pay your taxes........so? Besides, many of you may get money back and not filing would than be stupid.

If I was to create a Facebook group as a first step to getting more people aboard, would anyone here join? I ask because I would be horribly embarrassed if i did such a thing and got no members, it would be even better if there are other here who would like to be an administrator of th group with me.

I know its just facebook but i view it as a start.

If big movie stars and well known entertainers with all their money and fame can not get away with not paying their taxes then where is the hope for the little guy?

First, you incorrectly state that 90% of people are paying for 10% of the population which is incorrect to begin with. In 2007 it was closer to 17% of Americans who were getting some form of Social Security benefit and the majority of that – 63% - were retirees who far from not contributing, have been paying into the system their whole lives. It’s not a freeloader assistance system. And if you don’t believe me just see what happens if you become disabled – or perhaps more effectively if your parent or child becomes disabled and dependent on you. Do you think that you could provide for you and a disabled child for the rest of both of your lives? Few people are so fortunate. Most rely on disability or survivor benefits to help out and makes this possible. It’s fine to say that people could just save up their money instead of it being taxed but there’s a reason that Americans have a negative savings rate. No matter how much money they get, their needs always rise to meet that level. Someone here spoke of the time prior to social security. It might help for some of you to go back and look at how senior citizens made ends meet prior to that. Social Security was not a system invented for no reason. It was a response to a crisis in this country that saw the aged and disabled living in – literally – the street, shacks, sheds and tenements. This all for people who had been hard workers for years. The few people who receive benefits who have not paid into the system generally fall into two categories: children and people disabled from birth. Are you seriously going to tell me that people who are born with Down’s Syndrome or severe autism should just be out on their own and if they can’t hack it then tough luck? Come on. If I get killed I know Survivor SS benefits won’t be raising my kids because it really doesn’t provide that much money but it will provide a little money to make sure their basic needs are provided for which is the purpose of the program – to avoid critical poverty for children the elderly and disabled.

Oh and don’t start taking the “the federal income tax is illegal” thing seriously. If you buy that then I have an exiled Nigerian prince who would like your email address.

In 1999 it was reported on average 67 million inhabitants of the US did not pay or file their taxes. How much greater do you suppose that number is today? Nevermind the FACT that there is no law requiring the average American to even pay or file. How do you suppose they are dealing with those types of numbers when they cry tax evasion. Don't be suckered - they're not as powerful as they would have you believe. The people have been and will continue to be the Power in this country if not only through our sheer numbers.

Originally posted by KMFNWO
In 1999 it was reported on average 67 million inhabitants of the US did not pay or file their taxes. How much greater do you suppose that number is today? Nevermind the FACT that there is no law requiring the average American to even pay or file. How do you suppose they are dealing with those types of numbers when they cry tax evasion. Don't be suckered - they're not as powerful as they would have you believe. The people have been and will continue to be the Power in this country if not only through our sheer numbers.

Thats not much help, when the federal reserve has the power to print money out of thin air. So whether people dont file or not the Federal Reserve wil continue its practice of trying to destroy the dollar. The point of the protest would be to make it vocal that the people no longer want the fed reserve who has failed so miserably in charge.

good question,,, however

there aren't 1 million americans with the backbone to do it,,,, imagine 3 or 5 mill or 10

even that should be possible,,, but isn't

i hate to say it,,, but we americans are to comfortable,,,
we forget the founders said,,, if you can keep it,,,,,,,we ain't and not even close

we're to busy!!!!!

although young people do encourage me,,, they're getting involved in politics and have the umph and maybe the gumption to do something

In the UK we had a poll tax in the 1980's, where you had to pay a fee set by your local authority, which was the same for everyone regardless of income. There were two ways out, don't pay and face court, or forfeit your right to vote. Hence this 'Community Charge' was called a Poll Tax, Margaret Thatcher whilst fighting communism took away the universal right to vote. 1m people are though to have stopped registering to vote (the poor) and 1m more registrered to vote and refused to pay for this right. Many were fined, many went to prison or were credit black listed, many paid up to avoid prison, and Thatcher was kicked out of office by Heseltine who was to pay for this by being permanently hated by the Conservative Party, because he stood up for the right to vote.
We still have people who will not register to vote because of this.

In your scenario, I suspect that your government would call in transparent auditors, take out the most serious cases and dependant on the result of the audit, everyone would stump up or leaders would be voted out. It's a pretty silly question really, it's the tax type that winds people up, we all know there is an ongoing battle between the corrupt (or imaginative policy that needs time to demonstrate itself) types and the accountants.


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