so `muslim clerics` are paedofiles for saying its ok for 12 year olds to marry but its perfectly ok when a 14 year old has a baby - legally , in arkansas , indiana and iowa then.


ooooh wait you`ll LOVE this one:

going on the theory of the OP and others in this thread


Texas borders Mexico (well duh) and the Mexican state of Coahuila is on that border

the age of consent in Coahuila is


12

so (can you see where this is going mr OP)

Texan FRAT boys , dont cross the border because of the wild parties and cheap beer - oh no (you tube MUST be wrong)

they go because the age of consent is


12

so , going by the `lets tar everyone with the same damn brush` theory


ALL Texas frat boys are PEDOFILES.

It only seems wrong because it is not okay where you come from.

The reason it is not okay where you come from is our own fault. Mankind has slowed the 'growing up' process. As people have said, when the life expectancy was much lower, only around 30, people were having children much younger than they do (mostly) today, and managed to bring them up relatively well.

Yet most children today could not handle that responsibility, or so we are told. It's our own fault...


I am in no way condoning paedophilia by the way, I read my message and it does look like I am, but that is not my intention.

Originally posted by yenko13

We dont try to fix these things we just watch in amazement ,

If you want your 10 year old with a man so be it, But lets not spread that here like they try to bring Sharia law here , forget about it

Who is spreading anything here? Its already spread here in more ways than you want to realize. Quit hiding behind denial and see things as they are in this world, including on our own turf.

BTW, I dont have a 10 yr old daughter, she is 16 and had more sense to not pay attention to all this intimidating music, tv shows, fashion commercials and peer pressures at the age of 10 and now at 16 has more decency than most girls her age. I find that highly admirable of her and even she recognizes that there isnt a thing we can do about what other countries do or how they live. She is only concerned about where she lives and clearly sees the problems our youth face every single day.

Again, lets fix our s... first before sitting around being amazed at what others do. Armchair analytics never solves anything.



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Child Marriage or Arrange Marriages are nothing new, especially for this part of the world. It is an part of their culture that goes back before the time of Christ. It used to have a lot to do with dowries and such. It is mainly just religious purposes today. When I attended high school, our valedictorian was an Indian Hindu beliefs. Our Junior year we asked him why we never seen him dating any one from the school or from one of the other schools. He told us that he had already had an arranged marriage to a girl in Michigan and he thought it would be cheating on her to date someone else. I thought it was crazy at the time, but if that is the religion you grow up in then it must seem normal to them.

As StevenDye said, in recent history society, particularly Western, has created this prolonged adolescence period. And there's some evidence that it's still continuing to advance, what with people no longer marrying in their twenties (and many still living at home until they are nearly thirty), but often waiting until their thirties.

We forget that marriage, again, until recently, was really a legal contract between two families. And more to do with money, land, income and good relations with your neighbors than it had to do with love. Only in the last century or so have we come to expect what's called 'love matches' out of marriage.

This is also about control. As we have moved forward in cultural progression, we have left behind archaic ways of doing things, and one of these has been due to to 'womens liberation'. As much as we, in the west, and of the last couple of generations, think of it in terms of today, we forget that it meant in the past. It wasn't that long ago that women couldn't own property on their own or vote. Women have historically had barely more rights than stock animals.

And in some cultures still, around the world, women are living their lives in the chains of archaic social structure. Of course they want women to marry young; again, it's all about control. It's much easier to influence and control a ten year old rather than a twenty-five year old.

I think I can get behind this.

Marry them off as soon as possible. It'll decrease the chances of them being a high school sophomore on their third fatherless child.

Without that demographic what would Maury Povich have on his show?

there is one positive to it actually, they are married and taken care of.

How many young teen girls are raising babies by themselves?

I have a cousin by marriage, who had a baby at 12, by a 26 year old who took off the moment the stick turned pink.

Her father had her at 13.
his mother had him at 14.

She is now a great grandmother at 39.


And there are many stories like this.
So are our standards really much better?

Because the person wasn't forced to marry? and are now wards of the state and their parents, and the child is raised by a baby all alone.

The term minor in relation to the age of the female at the time of marriage is a varied as the cultures that practise the rite of marriage based on the dowry system. Basically, the younger the bride, the bigger the dowry but this is also dependent on the status of the family as well.

Personally, I think that any girl or boy under 18 is a minor but that is my perception based on the cultural norms that are acceptable in the society I live in. Someone else may say 16 is a minor age.

Child brides are not peculiar to Islam. This practise can be found all around the world.

There is a lot of info out there if anyone wants to dig further.

I do not agree with marrying off girls of minor age but having studied a bit of anthropology during my years at university has given me an understanding of why cultures practise this.


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Whilst I understand why marriage with child brides is practised, I do not agree with it. I am very glad that I was not born into a society that does this and I cultural practises such as this should be outlawed.

When I was at uni I did a semester on Women in Antiquity as part of my Classical Studies and one module was the dowry system and child brides. Our focus was on this ancient rite in a modern world...Ethiopian child brides.

A lot of these poor little girls try to run away only to be found, bashed, raped or even killed for being defiant. Defiance in a situation like this is seen as a flaw and reflects badly on the parents of the girl because it ruins thefamily's status. Defiance impacts on a future dowry if their are other daughters to be married off.

Death in childbirth is common, as are still births. as well as psychologcal damage, many of them have horrific and occasionally irrepairable physical damage due to childbirth at a young age. The physical damage is called a fistula and this means that the bladder wall, uterus and vagina are damaged. This means no more sex or babies so they are shunned and isolated from their family and that of husband. They are goods that were bought and paid for but now useless.

Two Aussie doctors (husband and wife) both gynaecologists opened a hospital to help these girls and surgically repair their broken bodies.

Do a search on child brides in Ethiopia


Child brides are a male construct to ensure status amongst their peers.


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