U.S. military report warns sudden collapse of Mexico is possible, page 6

reply to post by mopusvindictus

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your words bring tears to my eyes. Somebody else who recognizes that 12 million illegals are wrecking the economy of 300 million. It is what the government wants you to believe so they can take the pressure off their own incompetency.

Starred

reply to post by poet1b

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Both perspectives need to be taught. Nothing should be left out to lean one way or another. History should be taught as history. I know schools in America have a problem with this too, claiming we won WW2. The Soviets won the war in Europe. We won the war in the Pacific.

At LSU the history classes have been brutally honest on the other hand and not afraid to criticize or blast popular belief in regards to events. All schools should teach history like that.

reply to post by jam321

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Amen, we messed up the economy by living off Credit... Us as a people, Our Government AND our Corporations...

and aside from, a few years, maybe a decade of not being complete Materialists about everything, it's not going to hurt a Nation like America, we have a ton of Land we supply 35% of the worlds food and our Power is for a large part Nuclear...

People go bankrupt... so do Countries, it's called tightening your belt

America can never become "3rd world" because despite everything 20% of us are still seriously educated and we have the hardware and infrastructure intact and no one can take it away

The Panic we are in is LAUGHABLE

Our biggest worry... Our "Border situation"

It's Mexicans for crying out loud!

It's not a threat, Mexicans don't come equipped with a mandatory way of life or religion they will enforce... Even the Ethnic Mix isn't an issue...

If a Mexican marries a Caucasian.. you get a 1/4 Native, 3/4 European Child part catholic/ part Christian most likely

Are any of us that Racist where this is a major cultural problem ethnically for the make up of our country? WTF... lol, I can be biggoted but against different cultures lol, people who would change my way of life...

Speaking Spanish and broken English hardly qualifies as a major Cultural impasse in my book

I hear some of the craziest stuff about why Mexican immigration is bad...

1: They use our hospitals and it costs my money

yeah, then they get better and work and buy crap in your neighborhood

2: They bring diseases

Then wouldn't it be nice to get the CDC and our med teams into the country on a permanent basis before something really nasty gets loose?

3: They sell drugs

lol, only because we gave them value by making them illegal, ditto for drug gangs

4: there are groups that want to take back America

Out numbered 1,000 to 1 by people who want to BE American



We can be the Only continent to NEVER again suffer blood shed, revolution and be be completely independent from the World on Energy and food


Oh wait...we might have to economically prop up those Mexicans lol..... awwww such a price to pay for the safest continent on the Planet

reply to post by mopusvindictus

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Oh wait...we might have to economically prop up those Mexicans lol..... awwww such a price to pay for the safest continent on the Planet

Isn't like we haven't bailed them out before? Even made some money off the loan.

Three years before its deadline Mexico repaid its loans from the United States in total with interest.

www.accessmylibrary.com...

I also agree that the three countries uniting would be beneficial to compete in the world.

The Associate Press picked up the same story the OP posted (though re-worked a bit). You can read it here.

Here's the hook the AP article uses:

Indiscriminate kidnappings. Nearly daily beheadings. Gangs that mock and kill government agents.

This isn't Iraq or Pakistan. It's Mexico, which the U.S. government and a growing number of experts say is becoming one of the world's biggest security risks.

They also quoted CIA chief Michael Hayden saying that "Mexico could rank alongside Iran as a challenge for Obama — perhaps a greater problem than Iraq." What are the odds the US would actually invade Mexico if it became a "failed state" right on our border?

I can honestly say i didn't see anything like this coming a year ago.

i thought this might be interesting for this thread..

If Mexican drug violence spills across the U.S. border, Homeland Security officials say they have a contingency plan to assist border areas that includes bringing in the military.

"It's a common sense extension of our continued work with our state, local, and tribal partners in securing the southwest border," DHS spokeswoman Amy Kudwa said Friday.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, who described the contingency plan in an interview with The New York Times this week, said he ordered specific plans to be drawn up this summer as violence in Mexico continued to mount.

www.msnbc.msn.com...

reply to post by turbokid

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They already sent some of those guys over to south Arizona and southern Texas. I know a lady who lives in Arizona and my sis left Texas over it.

reply to post by xoxo stacie

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Yes and there's another possible outcome: if Mexico collapses into a failed state before there's a rush back to Mexico, then suddenly the 11+million "undocumented workers" in the US instantly become "political refugees" seeking and applying for asylum.

More bad news for Mexico's economy today:

The money sent home by Mexican migrants fell in 2008 for the first time on record, Mexico's central bank said Tuesday — part of a global trend that could worsen as emigrants from developing countries lose jobs in the global financial crisis.

Remittances, Mexico's second-largest source of foreign income after oil, plunged 3.6 percent to $25 billion in 2008 compared to $26 billion for the previous year, the central bank said.

Less money coming in from workers abroad and check oil prices knock out their two biggest sources of foreign income. Not a surprise, in light of the global economic situation...but it still influences (negatively) the strength of the Mexican gov't.

Newstory source.

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