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U.S. military report warns sudden collapse of Mexico is possible

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posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 02:03 AM
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Well, I'm certainly glad a couple actual Mexicans finally chimed in on the last page. Best regards and kudos to you (pretty much cut a full half of my reply
).

As for the NAU - if we were run by honorable, moral or ethical people, I might be hard-pressed to find any negativity in this proposal, yet as it stands, I don't think I'm alone in my assessment of government when I say they are simply inhumane puppets run by a World Banking Cartel whose only motivation comes from profit and control - which both require inhumanity and unethical behavior as foundation and necessity.

No, if this goes through, don't look for humanitarianism and consideration for the poor; you won't find it. You can also trust in the fact that there will be NO middle class; this eradication is obviously being carried out as we speak, and there is a 99.997% chance you won't be considered rich unless you're already there - so much so that certain financial sector scandals haven't already or won't, in the near future, shockingly pull your wealth from under you.

This certainly is not going to be pretty folks.

Is the average Canadian Patriot going to disregard their seemingly far superior health system?

Is the average American going to willingly accept Socialized Health Care (more of a possibility with our highly trained and experienced propaganda machine running 24/7)?

But more to the point - What, exactly, will happen to any or all of our sovereign documents?

What do we think will happen to the Bill of Rights, save the ones we've already squandered away for the illusion of security we so lovingly currently enjoy?

And we can certainly throw the Declaration of Independence RIGHT out the window, right?

What do we think will happen to our savings or investments (in Dollars) if the Amero is adopted as the sovereign currency of the NAU? The only way to adopt a new currency is to first file bankruptcy. That will render every dollar useless bathroom tissue. Do you really think they'll reimburse you? Do you currently have a bank account in Zurich with something other than dollars in it?

This is simply the top of the iceberg people. I can't believe this hasn't been brought up yet (I read the whole thread). Are we seriously blindly talking about the possibility of a North American Union without even considering these basic fundamental questions?

I believe that Change is truly inevitable, but seriously, is all this stuff going to be sprung upon the peoples of these nations without even an inkling of forethought or Patriot Oversight?

If this is the case, then the situation we find ourselves in is much more disturbing than I had previously assessed.

It almost makes me wish they'd just get it over with so the healing process can begin for whoever is left, and I most certainly hope I am not one of them.




posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 02:15 AM
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Who said anything about forming a NAU.

If Mexico collapses we just take over.

We might even split Mexico in two and give half to Canada if they would send troops to help clean up Mexico.

The canadians can have one coast and the US the other.

That way we would both have nice beaches for the winter.



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 02:32 AM
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Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by mattifikation
 



With Mexico and Canada firmly under Washington's control, the US would be energy independent. Right now most of the US' oil imports come from Canada and Mexico.

With the move to Oil Shale and Oil Sands for energy, North America stands to become by far the most important and powerful force on the face of the earth in the 21st century.


This makes me happy!




Canada alone has more Oil Sand reserves than the Entire remaining global oil reserves, over 1.7 trillion barrels of oil. In the US, oil shale reserves equal over 2 trillion barrels of oil.

When the rest of the planet is fighting over the last conventional reserves, North America will be the new OPEC to the world. The world will come to depend on America for its energy needs.



This makes me REALLY HAPPY!

Thanks for shining the light!



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 02:36 AM
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Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
I think everyone needs to read the Constitution. Anyone who says the NAU would be a good thing, really needs to take stock of why they live in the US.


Uhm... Because I was born here?




If you like the EU government then I suggest you move to Europe. Too many men and women have died defending you, me, us and to protect the Constitution and all it stands for.



What makes you think an NAU wouldn't just be expanding our territory? Manifest Destiny and all that? Did the people who died defending me have an issue with us buying the Louisiana purchase? How about California? Alaska?

I think not.



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 02:46 AM
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Does anyone have change for an amero?




posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 02:57 AM
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Cut the head off of the snake Legalize drugs.



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 02:58 AM
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Originally posted by airlouche

Originally posted by LeTan
I believe it would be the perfect catalyst for the NAU. The US and Canada would probably requisition all of Mexico's remaining resources.


lol, you mean the US would requisition all of Mexico's remaining resources. I'm from Canada and believe me, we're like the little puppy of USA. We sell all or oil, wood and energy to US for almost nothing. USA own Canada..

[edit on 14-1-2009 by airlouche]

[edit on 14-1-2009 by airlouche]


Canada provides power, cooperation, all the wood, heat etc. to millions of Americans. The USA pays Canada big bucks to hold it up.

Canada might be like a kickstand on a wooden leg but without that kickstand your going down.

I pledge allegiance to the US and Canada as a Dual citizen born and raised in Corn country. Canada is a great country and surely not wholly owned by the USA! The USA could not afford to buy Newfoundland for Pete's sake lol!!!



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 03:27 AM
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I was at a meeting today discussing this article. I'm an American who deals with tourism in Mexico. The definitely depend on US visitors. The biggest two sources of revenue for Mexico are being challenged (drugs are affected by the decrease in demand due to US economy and currency sent to families from relatives in the US is getting lower and lower). That´s not counting the repatriation of illegal aliens, which is increasing crime due to high unemployment. It is certainly a recipe for disaster.

What is the government thinking of? CASINOS. Yes, for decades casinos were proposed, but corruption and religious groups opposed. However, this time my sources tell me it may become a reality, just like the death penalty may become a reality for kidnappers. They are fed up! It would be a last ditch effort to save the country.

We all know casinos are "organized" in Las Vegas and Atlantic City. Perhaps the drug camp may look at casinos as a new source of revenue. Mexico is a socialist democracy and religion is what holds the country together in the hopes of a better tomorrow. However, the current situation is getting to a boiling point.

The currency had decrease 30% in the last 90 days. From 10 pesos per dollar, it's now hovering at almost 14. Not good for them and for our exports in the US. Let's not forget Mexico imports almost everything from the USA.

See you at the black jack table with a margarita! And by the way, no pesos or dollars accepted, only AMEROS. ;-)


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posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 03:31 AM
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Originally posted by FightLies

Giving up our freedoms and sovereignty thats the "BIG DEAL"




What do you mean by that? How would you have to give them up?
And exactly what freedoms are you talking about?



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 03:48 AM
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Originally posted by tac109
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If mexico amd america merged, imagine all of mexicos curruption melting into america, curruption is a virus that is hard to contro and im afraid there is no cure for, I believe that if the two contries became one america would be destroyed, all there drug dealers and criminals would have free reign in america and they will expand there operation in large scales in every town in america.


The US already has a lot of corruption, maybe not as widespread as Mexico's but still...not exactly a pristine govt. And it is the largest drug consumer in the world, so already there are tons of drug dealers running around the country (lots of clients, you know?.


sty

posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 04:01 AM
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good one, but I was ondering - can you americans vote for yourself without creating an elite classs to represent your interest?



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 07:47 AM
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Actually one of the problems that Mexico is encountering now after the big boom of US companies moving to their country for cheap labor is that Mexico is starting to lose them to China and Asia as they are easier and better to deal with human right violation.

Interesting.

As China Gallops, Mexico Sees Factory Jobs Slip Away

query.nytimes.com...



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 08:19 AM
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They mean the designed collapse of Mexico and Pakistan.

Maybe they'll bail them out too.



Originally posted by Erasurehead

U.S. military report warns sudden collapse of Mexico is possible


"In terms of worse-case scenarios for the Joint Force and indeed the world, two large and important states bear consideration for a rapid and sudden collapse: Pakistan and Mexico.

(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by SailorinAZ
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"In the foreword, Marine Gen. J.N. Mattis, the USJFC commander, said "Predictions about the future are always risky ... Regardless, if we do not try to forecast the future, there is no doubt that we will be caught off guard as we strive to protect this experiment in democracy that we call America."

Since when did America become a Democracy??????????????

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,
and to the Republic for which it stands,
one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

In the Pledge of Allegiance we all pledge allegiance to our Republic, not to a democracy. "Republic" is the proper description of our government, not "democracy." I invite you to join me in raising public awareness regarding that distinction.

A republic and a democracy are identical in every aspect except one. In a republic the sovereignty is in each individual person. In a democracy the sovereignty is in the group.


The Pledge of Allegiance has been banned in most schools since it contains the word GOD. But yes a Star for you for pointing out this glaring inconsistency that shows our government has been over run by foreigners at the highest levels.



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 09:23 AM
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i been telling people fora long time.....there is only one way to stop illegals from trying to enter through the border, that is relatively cheap to do.
It is not the nicest way toprotect the borders, but people use them all the time to deter people from wanting to cross.....and the answer to that is
LANDMINES.
If they see a sign in spanish or englishthat warns that the entire border is rigged with mines....that will deter ANYONE from wanting to cross.
Elect me, as president inthe next 4 years and we will make it happen.
(I know I will get a bunch of grief for this one)

Dont Step there!



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 09:28 AM
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Arn't mexico on the poverty line already, what's below poverty?

Could be a whole new market to exploit labor instead of china
by companies like Nike.



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 09:31 AM
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So what you're saying is America only cares about individuals as opposed to the growth of society as a whole? That makes perfect sense - at least it would explain the selfishness and greed in Americans. Thanks for clearing that out!



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 09:51 AM
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Im starting to wonder if Tom Clancy is either a profeth, psychic or a member of the guys who run the wolrd. Cuz this fellow is ALWAYS right about futureconflicts around the world.

Ghost Recon - all the russian and ex-sovjetstates (south ossethia recently)
Ghost Recon 2 - Mexico!



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by haika

Originally posted by FightLies

Giving up our freedoms and sovereignty thats the "BIG DEAL"




What do you mean by that? How would you have to give them up?
And exactly what freedoms are you talking about?



wow really i have to spell it out for you? If we form a NAU they will have free raign over the U.S.A. and thats just the start. (have you herd about the big highway from mexico threw texas on up to canada there building right now?)www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

this ones good about obama nad NAU
www.dailymotion.com...



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 10:12 AM
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LOL!!!

This has to be the dumbest most ridiculous, not to mention delusional remark made out of complete denial I have ever seen in my life!!!

First of all Mexico has always been in an economic crisis. There is absolutely nothing new here. Because of this the good people of Mexico, my people, are like fish in water in an economic crisis. We know how to live in it. We are as low as the elevator goes you silly, uninformed, people. Stop living in denial.

Second Illegal immigrants are moving back to Mexico by the thousands, and bringing many Americans with them. Yet nobody finds it funny that now that Mexicans are going back to Mexico the US feels the need to put up a big wall. Could it be that said big wall is not to keep Mexicans out but rather to keep you Americans, who have no Idea how to live during a depression, IN!!!

You guys are so Foocked and still you think that Mexico will fall? Fall from what? we are at the bottom. WE know how to grow our own food. We have chickens, pigs and cows in the middle of our cities. We are all ready set up to transport water via water trucks to our cement water containers. We all have septic tanks to transport our sewage. We have strong tightly nit family structures.

What the foock does your country have? You got Obama.......LOL and god knows that Africans make great leaders just look at Africa...........LOL!!!

I hope this is not some ploy to invade Mexico because if your Military steps one foot into our country your going to get your ass handed to you just like last time. So go starve in your own corner and stop worrying about Mexico. Build your great wall of china, your Berlin wall you are no use to us any more.



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