Judge axes trial as victim is 'too honest' to give evidence, page 2
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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 11:08 AM by george_gaz
Originally posted by TasteTheMagick
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but to make the excuse of someone being too honest is the thing that's really bothering me.


I could not agree more

This Judge Tabor does not know how to use his mouth in a sensitive manner. Take the above source about the choirmaster.

Chronic. How on Earth can you say the victim "enjoyed" it!!! Even if the victim did, sex (and I believe sexual offences of a serious nature, i.e. further than snogging) with somebody under 16 in the UK is statutory rape and a crime regardless because a person under 16 is said to not be capable of "giving consent" to sexual acts.

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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 12:05 PM by NatureBoy
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you're watching american court TV not britsh, also TV is rarely acurtate and the legal system is complex.

i don't even think the american legal system allows someone to go to prison based on witness testimony alone but i could be wrong.


reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 01:32 PM by OmegaLogos
Disclaimer: I'm a theist but not of the Abrahamic faiths. I have minor biblical scholar and scriptural skills. Also I am not a scientific/legal or medical expert in any field. Beware of my Contagious Memes! & watch out that you don't get cut on my Occams razor.All of this is my personal conjecture and should not be considered the absolute or most definitive state of things as they really are. Use this information at your own risk! I accept no liability if your ideology comes crashing down around you with accompanying consequences!

Explanation: I still stand unwaivering by my previous post position on this judge. 1stly its clear this is not a small claims court verdict where more weight may be given to a individual witnesses unfounded testimony, but this is clearly a higher court as this was a judge and not a magistrate and there was a jury involved so he was right to value her testimony as in self interest BUT he in no way should of set aside the conviction for these credible reasons A) there was other evidence i.e. broken nose (medical testimony) , the brick, the broken windshield, the other witness 26-year-old Jodie Dickinson who was in the car! ... all these may corroborate Her supposedly biased testimony.
What he should of done is after her testimony is direct the jury to be aware that her testimony was in self interest (revenge?) and that they should couch her testimony in that light when deliberating on the defendants guilt or innocence and weighing up ALL the evidence (Not just her testimony). He should of let the jury decide instead of paying her off out of public coffers and letting the alleged criminal escape true justice. I would recommend he be disbarred and the prosecutor appeal.

Personal Disclosure:- Wheres Rumpold of the Bailey when we need him???


reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 10:37 PM by TasteTheMagick
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Fine, TV is rarely accurate but I know a few lawyers as well. But seeing as how you made the point that this is America and we're considering the UK here. It's really a moot point because I am not familiar with the legal system in the UK.


reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 06:05 AM by TasteTheMagick
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Sure that evidence is circumstantial, but it's still extra evidence. Which is all a moot point because the judge himself should NOT be someone in a decision making position.

EDIT: The word "not"

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reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 09:27 AM by badmedia
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Not really trying to place blame, it's just a bit misleading for whatever reason is all. When I first opened the thread, I thought there was like other evidence in the case and that a really good case was thrown out because she was too honest etc. I guess you could say it's my own fault for assuming that or whatever. Not that big of a deal.


reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 05:47 PM by OmegaLogos
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Disclaimer: I'm a theist but not of the Abrahamic faiths. I have minor biblical scholar and scriptural skills. Also I am not a scientific/legal or medical expert in any field. Beware of my Contagious Memes! & watch out that you don't get cut on my Occams razor.All of this is my personal conjecture and should not be considered the absolute or most definitive state of things as they really are. Use this information at your own risk! I accept no liability if your ideology comes crashing down around you with accompanying consequences!

Explanation: PLEASE READ IT AGAIN! I am 100% sure that you overlooked/missed a VITAL sentence changing word. I quote it here "may" and bigger and in bold "MAY" and now I will use it EXACTLY same context I used it before ...."all these may corroborate Her supposedly biased testimony." and again, bigger and in bold ..."all these MAY corroborate Her supposedly biased testimony.". I really feel like throwing a dictionary at you.
I'm completely astounded how you could miss this and construe that we are not in 100% agreement. Have I offended you or insulted you in anyway that would cause you to take a position opposite me? (re: your post comes across to me that like I was somehow trying to promoting ignorance when in fact, I was clearly trying to deny it [see above for my PROOF of this fact]). If I have please u2u me so we can resolve this in private. I publicly apologize unreservedly to george_gaz for any offence or insult I may (there's that word again ) have caused intentionally or unintentionally.

Personal Disclosure: The judge is still a !

Edited to fix emoticon problem.

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