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For the reason alone of having a child's name others may not agree with, is not a valid reason to take the kids away.
People are saying "Oh, there must be something the parents did", well if there is something they did, the authorities should come out fast and say what it is. Otherwise, we are being led to believe the only reason is the child's name.
Originally posted by Blaine91555
This has been an interesting thread.
I don't think it is out of line considering the name we are discussing, to assume the parents intent or that they themselves are Nazi's. The evidence is so overwhelming as to make it almost laughable to suggest that their intentions were anything other than what is being assumed.
I still go back to the children and the harm they will suffer. Look at the abuse any child who is even slightly different has to endure. You can be sure that young Adolf will endure ten times as much and more. They may as well have named him Hit-me-kick-me Make-me-eat-dirt.
You can also assume that the parents are Nazi's based on the evidence available. Even in court I think there would be ample circumstantial evidence.
Rights are one thing but equating the right to name your child something that will ruin his future and teaching Nazi values to a right worth protecting, is carrying it into the silly zone. Arguing for that is just arguing for the sake of arguing and any semblance of common sense has left the building.
Originally posted by jfj123
reply to post by Leto
Although it is an assumption that the childs future would be ruined, I think it's valid. Come on, you don't think that a child named ADOLF HITLER would go through pure hell?????
My name is a bit odd and I had a hard time in school with other children, parents and even teachers.
Originally posted by jfj123
reply to post by Leto
Although it is an assumption that the childs future would be ruined, I think it's valid. Come on, you don't think that a child named ADOLF HITLER would go through pure hell?????
My name is a bit odd and I had a hard time in school with other children, parents and even teachers.
Originally posted by greeneyedleo
Again, there is zero evidence the kids were taken away due to their names. Not everyone is being led to believe that and those that are, are making assumptions based on paranoia of the government wanting to snatch kids away - just because.
The authorities don't have to come out and tell us anything - after all, at then end of the day it isn't even our business. It is a matter of that family. And more then likely there is some investigation being done.
It is more logical the kids were taken away due to other factors - not being their names. There is just no logic in why family services would take those kids away SOLEY for their names.
[edit on 1/14/2009 by greeneyedleo]
Police sergeant was assured they were not taken away because of name, birthday cake incident
Are you living in a fantasy land man? YES YOU ARE. Guess what, no matter what you name your kid they will get picked on, hit, made fun of, called names, physically and mentally beaten and worse in life. The kid could obviously say his name is something else like Al very early in life. Get a clue, nobody needs anyone else telling them what to name their kid. What people DO need is for other people to not be so dumb ass that they start controversy over someones #ing name. If others dont like it tough #. We wouldnt need freedom of speech to protect kind loving speech. Freedom of speech is for a case JUST LIKE THIS! Jeezus Krist.
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by The All Seeing I...if the name you chose for your child could be taken as a form of child abuse ... then we have quite a few celebrities to lock up.
Gwyneth Paltrow comes to mind... she named her kids Moses and Apple
or Frank Zappa's kids Moon Unit, Dweezil, Ahmet Emuukha Rodan and Diva Thin Muffin Pigeene.
I beg to disagree. It's one thing for a parent to offer up a ridiculous name...Zappa's kids are a fine example. But they are blessed with living with unorthodox parents, and can always assume a nickname. I'm sure Zowie Bowie had occasion to say "Yes, well, my Da's the Thin White Duke." and others would respond "Well, of course, then."
Naming a kid Adolph Hitler is child abuse because it not only fixes a kid up with one of the most despised names in history, but it also adds the foot note: "Oh, by the way, my parents are total White Trash in every sense of the concept." Which makes it even more abusive. Children should not be subject to derision, and if their parents do so...in this singular mannner... they are harming the children and are shouting out that they are not fit to parent them.
Originally posted by Erasurehead
There is more to this story that has not come out yet. There must have been some mental or physical abuse going on for the state of NJ to remove the children.
Originally posted by GamerGal
Lets make this very clear. Every child has been named after a NAZI. The house is filled with NAZI crap. The Parents are covered in NAZI tattoos. They are NAZIs. Next it is child abuse to brainwash your children in to being hate filled monsters. It takes away any chance of a future for these children. Both because of the name and of the "education" provided too them by NAZIs. In a job interview, realize the person interviewing them is Jewish, and leaping across the desk too kill them.