Alien artifacts discovered underneath crop circles

Every single crop circle has been man-made, POSSIBLY except the simple one circle ones made by rare natural events, this would explain why there are also ice circles, simple and round, I've yet to see an elaborate ice circle.

reply to post by Razimus

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"Every single crop circle has been man-made,"

Let me guess,

Do you intend to remain on this thread so that you can repeat this message over an over again?

Why even come on this thread if that is what you believe?

Your mind is made up, you've said as much.

What do you intend to accomplish?

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reply to post by Phage

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As far as I know that is surely not proven yet and this is what said at the bottom of the article on your provided site itself.

www.kornkreise-forschung.de...





Look if you are interested to this interesting Interview from Linda Moulton Howe:

















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I think if we were given the meaning in plain English, we would be like... HOAX!

This is very interesting. If these artifacts were put there by humans, someone lost a lot of money to do it.

And why on Earth would anyone melt it down? The only answer that comes to my mind is someone (with cash) knew what they were, and wanted it destroyed.

reply to post by NuclearPaul

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"This is very interesting. If these artifacts were put there by humans, someone lost a lot of money to do it. "

Crop circles are not a modern phenomenon - they are likely as old as farming itself.

We are assuming that these discs were placed in the field by Modern Man - when it fact, we do not no when they were placed.

Nor can we date the discs themselves, as them have been melted down...

*This reminds of the farmer who was paid a hefty sum to remove the contents of his crop circle. There must have been a message in it that someone didn't want to become known.

The crop circle reappeared the next morning, ten miles away in the field of another farmer, who did not accept the cash to destroy the contents of the circle.

The first farmer did not tell anyone that he was paid to remove the contents until weeks after the second circle had been found.

Well I'm going to have to be a little straightforward and right off the topic.

If I had craft that I could use to graffiti on farmers land, I'd fly around some fields and draw a bunch of weiners...... I mean come on, some super intricate massive 800ft weiner, people would laugh.......


I mean they'd have to sensor it, a sensored crop field. Heh..... I don't usually say that stuff, but damn i'm..........hmmm I forgot the rest =)

You asked me a specific question, I answered it, and you are mad because I answered it? haha, apparently your question was a trick question? it didn't exactly work because I don't care what you think.

Even whitley streiber was pissed at me when I disclosed the truth behind crop circles, he emailed me asking me how I knew...

I told him...

I know elaborate crop circles are man-made art-work, the field being the canvass, because I, myself, am an artist, and a human artist knows human art when they see it. Do I have PROOF? Well we have proof they can be made by man, can we prove every one? nobody has the man power to set up expensive night vision cameras in every random field so that is just a joke but I know the technology involved is simple, it's the MINDSET a non-artist can't comprehend, the mindset of the artist plans these things in advance, they have art teams interested in the project, they draw up schematics, they don't just do this crap improv while drunk one night. The artform is very lame at this point though as it's been done so many times before.

As for this threads specific crop circle, the fact that the metal was melted down is proof enough that it was a hoax from the beginning, who in their right mind would melt down E.T. proof just so they could pawn it off? makes no sense unless it was a hoax.

To all crop circle E.T. believers, I ask you, where's your proof? do you insist on spouting off this crap without ever backing it up?

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reply to post by Razimus

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"To all crop circle E.T. believers, I ask you, where's your proof?"

I'm agnostic on the matter.

I await proof, and will continue to analyze and discuss past and present discoveries, withholding judgment whilst continuing to theorize and discuss the matter with my peers.

My mind is open. You admit that yours is closed.

Why then do you insist on "spouting off" about how closed-minded you are?

*At least leave us alone to discuss the possibilities... which you admit you are not open to.

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I'm pretty much the only realist on this subject on this thread, I'm the only one here that believes crop circles are man-made by artists, and you don't want both sides on this thread? Don't pretend your neutral on this subject, you obviously lean towards E.T. being the artist and not human kind, that is apparent in every one of your posts, especially your attacking of my stance on the subject.

This is what I see, a bunch of guys saying "What are crop circles? ET I think" "Yeah ET definitely", "YEah ET" "ET" "Yep ET", And I say "man-made artists" and you freak out like a little baby..

You want to live in LA-LA land where there is no opposition to your beliefs, that land is pretty boring, without opposition you can never challenge, and you become complaciant, another mindless drone, droning away, keep droning baby. I can and will post my view on this thead as long as I like, you almost have a nazi-like wish to keep it under control, in a narrow minded box.

reply to post by Razimus

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Why are you so hostile?

Was it something I said?- perhaps this:

'I'm agnostic on the matter.

I await proof, and will continue to analyze and discuss past and present discoveries, withholding judgment whilst continuing to theorize and discuss the matter with my peers.'

*Then you attack me for being logical:

"You want to live in LA-LA land where there is no opposition to your beliefs,.."

*And Compare me to the Nazi Regime:

"...you almost have a nazi-like wish to keep it under control, in a narrow minded box. "

*Then you have the gall to say I'm the one attacking you:

"...especially your attacking of my stance on the subject. "

*I ask again - Why so much hostility?

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reply to post by Razimus

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I agree that at least some of the crop circles are man made. It would be a tiny bit naive to think otherwise, in my opinion. In England, a group of crop circle makers actually has their own website called "cirkemakers"!

It seems that even these artists think that some crop circles may be genunine - of uknown origin. This is a story I found at their website:


www.circlemakers.org...

just a theory, but maybe just maybe, the design of the crop is a puzzle indicating where the craft came from. maybe its nota puzzle, maybe itis the exact location of the origin to where the ship came from. Maybe all youhave to do is look up in the sky, find any possible matches of the stars that coincide with the pictogram, and then focus your search there.
Just a theory.

reply to post by Razimus

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You seem so sure, so can you please explain why the elevated radiation at some crop circle sites???? Can the circle fakers reproduce this radiation?? Also the plates that were found at them, did you look at the reports into these plates? Could you please explain how the facts given are easily reproduced.
Your arguement of "knowing" they are all fake because your an artist is really one of the worst I have heard in a long time. Sorry but im going to keep looking into the actual data rather than take your word for it!

Yes! Thanks. That's it. I believe the crop circles there were made with sonic energy or something similar.

reply to post by nikiano

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That is the best video I've seen yet about crop circles and ufos making them.

It is from 1989 and looks quite genuine.

I would like to see the measurements taken from within the circle they are making; soil samples, plants samples, radiation tests the lot.

I'll try to find them and post them here;

Does anyone know the location of this circle or the name of the person filming it?

That story was in the book, I was telling you about. The airline pilot was working on putting together the cut-out diagrams of the gift when he then needed to figure out what fueled the ship. He then heard about a crop circle that had appeared in a Kansas field in the summer of 1991.

You know what it was? It was this: It said E97+

The farmer said that the symbol was immediately erased by the government.

The author (Doug Ruby) thinks the crop circle was a message that was telling us: element 97.

He thinks the symbol was referring to the element 97, which is Berkelium (Bk) which has an atomic weight of 247. He thinks that is the element that is to be used to power the ship.


Ruby said this about the symbol: " I will leave it up to our scientists to understand the meaning of the letter E and the + sign. It is possible that all of these figures have an entirely different meaning in higher mathematics, chemistry, or nuclear physics. At any rate, here is a gimme if there ever was one. This completes my discussion of the ship's power plant. I am fully aware that I have created more questions than I answered, which is unavoidable at this time."


Ruby's book was published in 1995, and the complete name of the book is called: The Gift; The Crop Circles Deciphered. His work centered on the early crop circles, which people calll insectoid crop circles, because they looked somewhat like insects, or strange keys.

The crop circles later on became much more complex throughout the years.

Well, seriously, I'm going to work on deciphering more crop circles if anybody is interested in joining me.

Also, there is an expert speaker on the subject of crop circles; his name is Freddy Silva, and he has done extensive research on them for years, and has written books on the subject and made some interesting DVD's. He's speaking in quite a few places here in the US in 2009, if anyone wants to check out his website. Last month, I decided I was going to try to attend at least one of his speaking engagements this year.

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"that story was in the book, I was telling you about: The Gift."


Actually it came out of Colin Andrews Mouth.

Colin Andrews - the man who investigated crop circles with the Ministry of Defense.

It is on Google video and is one hour long it is called 'Alien Signs' and it is a presentation by Colin Andrews.

reply to post by Exuberant1

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Well, I have the book right here in my lap, and I'm reading this paragraph right here on page 168.

It makes sense that this information would be well known by all prominent crop circle researchers. Crop circles aren't intellectual property, so all researchers are free to research them and publish their research. Doug Ruby didn't say that he discovered the crop circle, he just said that he put together all the information of all the crop circles and worked on deciphering them.

Maybe he got the information from Colin Andrews, or maybe Colin Andrews got the information from him. Or maybe they both got the information from the farmer. Who knows. But it doesn't really matter who reported the information first. What matters is what the information means.



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reply to post by nikiano

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Must be a well Known case then.

Colin Andrews also appears to be quite prolific - sort of like Nick Pop is nowadays.

It doesn't surprise that a case such as this has gotten around.

scientists do not have proof for many things, like dark matter or black holes, yet they believe they exist...

I could say: you believe in dark matter crap, it's a hoax!

your logic fails on the basic level