Basic essential tools for your BOB, page 2
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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 02:32 PM by Anonymous ATS
My advice would be to ditch the cookware. It is cumbersome, weighty and takes up valuable space. Get a large metal coffee tin to use. This will suffice as a decent size pot to cook in, boil water in, transport fire in, trap food in and store other BOB gear in. Dont' worry about a plate either, get a 10" plastic frizbee. You can eat off of it and still play with it later. Yes, you will need something as a diversion if you find yourself in a disaster situation and playing frizbee is as good as any.

Also, pre-make your tinder/fire starter. Melt some parafin wax, dip newspaper into the wax and then roll three STRIKE ANYWHERE matches up in the newspaper. Tie up with a string and dip once more. Whether you use a flint and steel or strike the matches, the waxed newspaper will burn hot and long enough to dry wet twigs. Make up as many as you wish, but I usually only keep 5 on hand. I try to rotate these out once a year, just to keep the matches vital.

Iodine tabs are your best route. Filtration straws and pumps are fine for your everyday camper, but they are usually limited in their total production life. Boiling water and then pouring that water through a sock filled with charcoal (from your cook fire) will remove pathogens and almost all other toxins. This isn't something you can do on the fly (hence the iodine tabs) but it beats the hell out of nothing and you won't have to worry about finding replacement cartridiges for your filters. If you have a long term base camp then you can use the boil/condense method for purifying water.

I have a solar/dynamo powered weather radio/flashlight that is well worth the money. Forget batteries.

Ditch the folding saw and find a "string saw" or something similar. Pack an axe/hatchet instead. You can chop and split. The string saw will work just fine in the bush.

Yes, you will need a plant guide and a decent survival manual. Make sure their pages are coated so they won't rot if they get wet.

Maps with routes marked are a must, something may happen to you and one of your loved ones might have to take point.

Forget the two way radios. They can be monitored and again rely on batteries. Learn to use signal mirrors and other distance/trail communication.

Your BOB ought not weigh more than ten pounds and be larger than a school backpack. Ideally, 1000 cubic centimeters of storage area (the size of a large fanny pack or day pack) ought to get you by. I suggest getting the fanny pack (rides in the small of your back at waist level) so you can still wear a mil style 3 day pack on your shoulders. A small BOB rides well in a vehicle or on your person or in a closet.

Remember that a BOB is NOT a long term survival tool. It is built for the MOMENT. You should have a car box or large pack for your clothes and weapons/shelter, but you should NEVER try and pack for more than 3 days because people usually just can't haul that much gear and still move with any degree of speed or stealth. Cache your biger, longer term gear ar rally points or safe zones where you plan on setting up a base for more than one night.

A BOB is there so you won't be caught completely un-prepared, but is not meant to provide you with long term use. Keep It Simple Stupid or K.I.S.S. for short. Simple saves lives.



reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 05:07 PM by warpboost
Reading this made me wonder if there is a crank or solar charger that could be used for AA or other batteries, and I found this video on how to build your own crank charger

www.metacafe.com...


This seems like the best option for a cooking stove/heat source to me since it can burn just about anything for fuel


Not only does it burn butane, but every liquid fuel too - white gas, kerosene, diesel #1, auto fuel, jet fuel and others. With a simple turn of the burner cup, you can adjust for any fuel you want to use without replacing jets or fiddling with loose parts

www.brunton.com...


reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 05:29 PM by NatureBoy
reply to post by Northern Raider



you're joking right? i'm from the UK myself, we have some terrible water ways and awful bugs in our rivers - certainly in an emergency it would be really important to be able to quickly clean water to a high standard, boiling won't get rid of some of the more nasty bugs nor will it remove heavy metals, chemical particulates or radioactive fall out - if you have wounded to treat, sick, old or young people then you really want to assure you water is clean to the highest standards.

You might know the name of the sock type thing you fill with water and hang up to filter out the lumps? british army design, i think they're called a 'someones name' bag or something. Anyway they are great for getting rid of the bulk of dirt in the water, esp fast running river water which can carry a lot of larger particles. this will extend the life of main device, a small hand pump filter with a long life filter seems to make the most sence, a good one will be able to remove all the bad things from the water in no time at all and take up very little space (mobile phone size)

edit to add: are they milton bags?

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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 05:52 PM by Wotan
reply to post by NatureBoy



I think you are reffering to Millbanks.

NR is right to a point in that the UK is blessed or cursed with lots of lovely water in the form of rain. So in that point of view, water doesnt really become so much of a problem for we Brits.

I would however be suspect of running water that happens to flow around our countryside without first filtering and purifying it. I am fortunate enough to own a ''Lifesaver bottle'' so have that aspect well taken care of.


reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 08:50 PM by seasoul
It’s a learning experience, to spend some time studying the hardcore homeless. There are lots of them around here. Don’t let their looks deceive you. They are some of the sharpest people. Many of them are masters, when it comes to reckoning their way from one day to the next, with little more than the clothes on their back.

In this area, one needs to cultivate urban survival skills. In a “trance state” on an “urban walk about,” the synchronicities you can experiece are literally magic. The universe provides, but in ways most are not accustomed to recognizing. Pay close attention to each step. If you silence the “monkey mind” and focus with intention on the moment, you will start to identify an abundance of gifts, contributions, rewards, donations, offerings, and souvenirs.

I don’t plan on leaving, no matter how bad it gets. This place is my home. But for those who decide to go, you may want to wear as much warm clothing as you can handle. It can always be shed.

I’d pack lots of dried fruit. It’s nutrient dense and light weight. Water although ABSOLUTELY necessary, will be your heaviest item. I wouldn’t leave home without dental floss, toothbrushes, hydrogen peroxide, a bottle of shampoo, paper towels, wash clothes, and small towels. I’d also like a couple of Zippo lighters, extra flints, cotton swabs, wicks, and a small bottle of Naptha fuel.

Don’t talk too much around strangers. At first, it’s always better to do most of the listening, until you figure out who you’re dealing with. Most people are good, but rotten apples exist. There are basically two types, those who serve others and those who serve themselves. Be careful of the latter. On a walk about, it would be wise to drop service to self folks, like a bad habit.

You’ll find it more helpful than you can imagine to continuously request guidance from the universe. If you’re disciplined in this, before long you’ll begin to see results. The universe will only intervene in your life, if asked to. So remember to be persistent in your asking. Request that which you feel is necessary, as you wander.

P.S. No fear, it’s all fun!



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