Basic essential tools for your BOB, page 1
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Topic started on 14-1-2009 @ 04:41 AM by Northern Raider
We appear to get sked on an almost daily basis " What do I need in my BOB? " so here is a very basic list that people can use as a base to develop their own list from.

Basic essential tools for BOB’s

This list does not include weaponry, clothing, food, footwear, tentage, etc
It is ONLY the basic ESSENTIAL tools required to start building a Bug Out Bag with.
1. Fixed Blade Knife
2. Folding Blade Knife
3. Knife Sharpener and silicone oil
4. Folding Woodsaw
5. Secatuers or Pruning Shears
6. Compass in mils and degrees
7. Maps with bug out routes marked out
8. Binoculars (possibly a camera as well)
9. AM/FM/ Radio (spare batteries if required)
10. LED Flashlights (spare batteries if required)
11. Analogue Watch (solar or self winder)
12. Eye protection ( Shades, Prescription glasses etc)
13. Multi Tool
14. K.F.S or Spork
15. Tin opener / Bottle opener
16. Water Bottle and Mug
17. Water Filter and Water Purification tablets
18. First Aid Kit plus Prescription Medicines
19. Survival Guide, Notebook and Pen and Sharpie type marker
20. Mini Cooker and Spare Fuel
21. Cook pots, Mess Tins and washing up kit
22. Climbing Rope, Paracord, Cable Ties and Duct Tape
23. Storm Proof Lighter , Spare Fuel, Matches, Flint & Steel
24. Chemical Light Sticks/Candles( in a mini lantern to keep them safely in)
25. Personal hygiene kit ( soap, deodorant, toothbrush, razor, towel etc
26. 2 way radios plus spare batteries / Solar power recharger
27. Sleeping Bag and Liner / campamat/ groundsheet.
28. Disposable Dust masks/ Bandana
29. Rubbish Bags and Cleaning Cloths
30. Babywipes ( better than toilet paper and more useful)

Other items to be considered are firearms (law permitting) batons, sprays, work gloves, goggles, Personal clothing including waterproofs and changes of Socks/ Underwear, Hats, loves, Feminine Hygiene Materials, Tents, Food Rations, Radiation and Nox detectors, boots/ shoes, Extra rope/food/fuel/water/medical kit/tarpaulins/tools/ammo etc to be shared among group or family.

Don’t forget to take your essential family documents such as deeds, passports, bonds, CCWs, insurance docs etc.

Where possible please try to get radios, flashlights etc that use a standard size commonly available battery like AA or CR123A.
Please feel free to adapt , add to or amend this brief list to meet your own needs.

Respects NR



[edit on 14-1-2009 by Northern Raider]


reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 09:54 AM by NatureBoy
reply to post by DataWraith



yeah wind up is a must, solar not so much -it let's you down when you need it most (when the suns blocked out by dense black clouds of sulfur for instance) and most of the mono-crystalline PV cells such as the ones on the 'free loader' portable charger only work in strong sunlight and only produce a few good Watts.

A good crank handle however or a squeeze mechanism running a dynamo can be used any time of the day or night and can provide a good amount of charge in a short period of time.


reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 10:32 AM by reluctantpawn
reply to post by NatureBoy



Where did you get this list?
"the most vital things are, in this order - water, food, warmth / dryness, protection and comfort. "
From my experience it might get you killed. Hypothermia will kill you much faster than no food or water.
Try the rule of threes, it is not entirely accurate but a better guage of survivability.
3 minutes without air
3hours without shelter
3 days without water
3weeks without food
and you might even say 3 months without human interaction.

respectfully

reluctantpawn


reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 11:11 AM by NatureBoy
reply to post by reluctantpawn



well, going without water for a single day will cause problems, three days will kill you. Bad water will kill you quickest.

Hunger (a day or two) will send many people into an irrational state, 3-4days will turn most people a little crazy and five days is your limit if you're also trying to stay alive / keep moving.

Shelter is easy to improvise, in most climates a human can survive about a week of hard rough sleeping before getting 'rundown' and developing a flu like state. In most of the world a human can sleep well with little or no kit (i speak from a lot of experience on this) however as you rightly state sever cold / rain or heat can cause a very quick death - i suppose if you live in somewhere that gets very cold you consider that aspect when making your bag. I've had a few wet weeks, weeks where everything got wet every night even my sleeping bag (hehe thanks Holland) without it causing any real problems, the human is tough little animal.

in a sitx shelter will likely be easier to make / improvise than food or water and my list is meant only as a list of whats most important in a BoB.

oh and yeah people go stir crazy without other humans around, it's kinda cute in a way, we all need each other - that's why if i ever need to bug out i'll wait until it's so bad that my friends know it's time to go as well Might get me in trouble, waiting too long might be my biggest mistake but i'ld rather no life at all than one in which i had abandoned my friends.

basically, no water is CERTAIN to kill you, no food will MOST LIKELY kill you while not having shelter MIGH kill you. besides, the odds of finding a house to shelter in at night are high, that the house will have a few tins of food is much lower while the chance of getting clean drinking water are very very low (unless you're prepared for it with filters and catchment traps)



reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 11:20 AM by Northern Raider
Originally posted by switching yard
Good list, but here is an important reminder...

think about total weight of your backpack.

You will need your BOB to be as lightweight as possible. I cannot stress this enough. When you get all your "essentials" into your bag, carry it on an all day hike, say, at least ten miles. Then you'll start researching how to carry lighter weight essentials.

One of the most common mistakes first timers make in mountaineering is loading a pack that's ultimately too heavy. I'm not saying you're going to be walking up mountains, but you've got to give weight a very, very serious consideration if you think you may have to "hoof it" and in a worse case scenario, you probably will be on foot out there. Too much weight when the **** hits the fan will mean that you will be throwing things away as you hike in order to lighten your load to a manageable carry weight. Better to lighten it in advance than find yourself out there unable to move because you've packed a ton of stuff.


Again I restate the point its a basic start list to work from, You are assuming the BOB will be carried by one person on foot out of the area, assuming things gets people dead in the real world. Some of the contents could be shared out among a family or group, they may be bugging out by road using a vehicle such as a car or bicycle. Sadly all to often people only think that survivalism applies to single fit young men, when in most cases its entire families trying to survive.


reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 11:25 AM by reluctantpawn
reply to post by NatureBoy



I cannot argue with your logic. For me most of my experience comes from primitive living and learning to do with little or nothing. I have not taken into account any variables that might occur from an urban type bug-out. I am much more comfortable in the hills and mountains doing with what nature provides, and thus my views are slanted in that direction.

respectfully

reluctantpawn


reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 01:58 PM by Northern Raider
Originally posted by switching yard
"Again I restate the point its a basic start list to work from, You are assuming the BOB will be carried by one person on foot out of the area, assuming things gets people dead in the real world. Some of the contents could be shared out among a family or group, they may be bugging out by road using a vehicle such as a car or bicycle. Sadly all to often people only think that survivalism applies to single fit young men, when in most cases its entire families trying to survive."

Fair enough, but I thought we were talking about a bug out bag, as in: one, not a troop of them. Go ahead and pack your ton of stuff. I will be lightweight and go farther, faster than you. If you don't consider total weight however, I'll bet you will regret it, plain and simple.

Repeating what others have said... a water filter is your number one essential.



I've got 52 years under my belt and 22 of them as an Infantry sergeant and Fieldcraft survivor, and no one in the world moves faster than a British light infantryman .
( cept perhaps another light infantryman if we are under fire and legging it out of the way)


I have carried my share of heavy kit, and once again you are assuming that everyone is simply going to be hiking and that they are all fit young men, so once again assuming things can get you dead before your time. Plus a water filter may be essential if you live in parts of the US, but its not realy neccessary in most of the UK, we dont have the diseases, we have far more naturally filtered water, its always bloody raining and there is always lots of timber or coal to burn to boil your water. BTW your number one essentialthing is a positive mental attitude, water filters are luxuries, I made my last one out of a pice of coffee filter, some river sand and the charcoal out of the camp fire Thanks for contributing anyway because its debates like this that improve our knowledge.

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