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posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 07:33 PM
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Now I do not believe a supreme being/deity created us. It just does not make any sense what so ever to me. How is it one being with a book and a pencil decided to craft the entire universe and all of it's inhabitants.


I believe the supreme being you talk of is the force of life, it is always has been and always will be, it will change and take form of unfathomable existance.

Just because Jesus was an enlightened cat doesn't mean God was a super enlightened person that fornicated with the super enlightened whatever, Jesus was just born out of sheer enlightenment of the cosmos.




posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by theresult
God


Reference:

New York Times, Jan 9, 1966, pg. 146



posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
As humans we are blessed with the ability to ask why.


Good statement imo.

As individuals, the question(s) we ask are determined by other individuals questions and answers and the thoughts of every living thing to understand the world around them.

Every question and answer in this thread, these posts and on the whole of ATS & BTS comes from our reflection on the information given.

If others didn't ask questions to find answers, why would we find reason in asking our own outside of our own minds?

The question is....who asked the first one?

Was that the moment "life" was created when "I" asked itself a question?

Is this paradoxical?

If there was a god, did he create everything because he had a question?

Of course there must be relevance to our questions and a well thought out question has more chance of providing a useful answer sooner.

So my question to all of you is: what came first, the chicken or the egg?

My answer: the egg.....the first chicken evolved from it's predecessor which wasn't a chicken but they both came from eggs.

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egg........e=5, g=7, 5x7=35. 35+g=42



posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by nerbot
My answer: the egg.....the first chicken evolved from it's predecessor which wasn't a chicken but they both came from eggs.


Then what came before that predecssor? At one point it had to grow from a rat or something, right?



posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by Revolution-2012
Then what came before that predecssor? At one point it had to grow from a rat or something, right?


Wrong..Rats are mammals and don't come from eggs.


It's predecessor wouldh've been another bird-type-thing.



posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 09:34 PM
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Ok.

Then what came before the bird-thing, a piece of algea that grew wings?



posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by Revolution-2012
Then what came before the bird-thing, a piece of algea that grew wings?


Algae would seek land before air wouldn't it. How about legs first?

You have about 200 questions before you get the answer you want at this rate.


hint: evolution takes a long, long, long time.
so let's not carry on with this. Let's just go from bird-like-thing to chicken and both from eggs eh!



posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 09:52 PM
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Ok so the algae grew into a deformed creature, that grew into a rat, that grew into a meekrat, that grew into a meekrat with wings, that grew into a bird, that dropped a chicken egg.

Getting closer?



posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 10:15 PM
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Originally posted by Revolution-2012
Getting closer?


Not really.

What's a meekrat... Do you mean a meerkat?

Are you stuck in a box?


Forget your evolutions for a minute and forget all your "what ifs".....

The answer I gave to the chicken and egg thing is just ONE possible answer that makes sense in an age old dilema often used as an example of paradox and the inability to know a solution to the dilema. All I was doing was showing that there is at least one possible answer!

The ONLY animal that came DIRECTLY before a chicken would have been "chicken-like" but not yet definable as a chicken. Evolution is a very slow process and so it is logical to assume they both were hatched from an egg. Therefore the "egg" came first.

If you asked me "how long is a piece of string", I would say "what type?"

Both the question and answer are as pointless as eachother but at least I provided an answer.

Questions, questions....and a million answers!

I have a big box and I ain't afraid to use it! Ask me another?



posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 10:25 PM
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What did the farmer say to the donkey.

Why did the tree fall over.

Why is George W. Bush an idiot.

What did Bill Clinton say when he fruited his loins in the Oval office(possibly giggity giggity goo?).


XD



posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by Revolution-2012
What did the farmer say to the donkey.


"Oooh-Arrr Eyore"


Why did the tree fall over.


Because trees don't fall up.


Why is George W. Bush an idiot.


Because he didn't understand the farmer.


What did Bill Clinton say when he fruited his loins in the Oval office(possibly giggity giggity goo?).


"Now you know why it's called the "white" house."



posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 10:39 PM
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Now we got this thread on a roll... Boy is the guy who started this thread going to have some catching up to do.

One more queston nerbot.

When it rains, why don't sheep shrink?



posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 10:54 PM
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Im keeping my eyes on it but try to stay on topic !

and im getting lots of good info from the points of views that are on here

I wont post it just yet untill more reactions come into play

So far its been more about god "very interesting"!!

what about science and how that fits in?




posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 11:08 PM
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Because it hasn't been "scoured".

EG..the follicles produce hair with cuticle scales in the same direction. It's only when they're disrupted and mixed by manufacturing that they can "bind" and produce shrinking when wet.

Google is our friend......Why doesn't sheeps wool shrink?

The bigger the box, the more space there is to think.



posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 11:18 PM
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Very much on topic don't you think.

Questions, questions, answers, answers.

I'm trying to show that every question has at least one possible answer.

The simplest being "I don't know" and can inevitably lead to more questions, and the definative being similar to the example above that need little or no further answer.

The same is true in asking a question. To be precise and focus a question on what we THINK may be an answer will reveal far more than a general "what is" or "what if" kind of question. Something we have far too much of round here.

Great thread by the way, thanks....flag & star for being interesting.



posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 11:42 PM
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I have a question that is unanswerable.

How does 1+1=3 without any decimals, fractions, or other variables regarding any type of integer?

ie
1+1=a
a=3



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 01:40 AM
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You need to use a bigger box my friend, but nice try......

a symbol for number "1"

a calculation symbol for "+"

another symbol for number "1"

that equals three symbols.
"1+1"=3

No decimals, no fractions, no variables. Just quantities.

Always an answer......

[edit on 15/1/2009 by nerbot]



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 02:19 AM
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OK I know I got you here....

Let's see if I can make you go do some research.

In computer programming,

What happens if you have a Long integer that performs the following procedure.

(roughly VB)


Sub form_load()
Define a as long
a=65535
while a is 65535
a+65537


Heh I've maid better loops in VB but it's been awhile.

So what happens there.

And what happens here.

Given the theory that black holes hava counterpart where matter is spewed outwards through a "white hole", what happens within the physics and time space relativity throughout this universal anomaly?

If you poured 1/3 the amount of of the south poles mass in salt on the south pole, would the entire south pole melt away?

And the real question still remains,

Why do you have an answer for every question, is there not question in every answer?

=) I'm stepping outside the box buddy.



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 05:15 AM
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hey rev


Just to tease that brain of yours..

me = alive
Math = tool
Question = result
Answer = outcome of question

1+1 =2 is a measurment of a question

1+1=3 is me using math


simple heh hehehe



posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by Revolution-2012
Heh I've maid better loops in VB but it's been awhile.


a: You get a not-quite-brilliant Visual Basic "loop"



Given the theory that black holes have a counterpart etc......


A "theory" like this is something that has no definative answer. As yet, we cannot KNOW the answer to "what happens..."


If you poured 1/3 the amount of of the south poles mass in salt on the south pole, would the entire south pole melt away?


If you found that much salt the seas would have to be evaporated to a point that would kill just about everything and it wouldn't be a possible exercise!

There is no "if".


And the real question still remains,

Why do you have an answer for every question, is there not question in every answer?


a: because I have a Big Box and b: of course.


=) I'm stepping outside the box buddy.


You are, you are....And how many sides does your box have? Mine has 2.

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