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I am not so sure about what kind of authority this writer is. I think he was a graduate student in theology and threw up a lot of stuff that he was studying. He seems to have gone through the whole question about the trinity pretty throughly, over very many articles. In this particular one, he is aiming at a belief held by followers of H. Armstrong who share with locoman the idea of a two person godhead.
from the blog, The Faith of Jesus:
The recognized facts of the Hebrew language will not support the theory that Elohim tells us that the God of Israel is more than one Person. It is wise for us all to “prove all things” and consider the lexical fact that Elohim is probably a “plural of majesty,” or, as others think, an honorific plural, a “plural of fullness,” or of “intensity.” Elohim cannot possibly mean that two beings (or three) make up the one God.
Many have not been told of other Hebrew plural forms which certainly do not tell us of more than one person:
Can the word “Lord,” also found in the plural form in Hebrew, refer to a single individual?
The word for Lord (adon) regularly appears with a plural ending when its meaning is singular. So it is with Elohim when it refers to God. God in the Hebrew Bible is described thousands upon thousands of times by singular personal pronouns. Yahweh, His personal name, is invariably accompanied by singular pronouns and verbs. On each of these occasions we have a testimony to the grand truth that there is One and only One Person in the eternal Godhead. Grasping this foundational truth and holding it fast will bring a new and brilliant light to Bible study — and to an understanding of the human Messiah, Son of God. It also frees the brain from the contortions involved in trying to make two or three into one!
Try this: If you were on a trip alone in the mountains what would you say to describe the fact that you were all by yourself? You would say, “I was alone, the only person on the trip. There was no one besides me.” You would continue with personal pronouns in the singular, “I” and “me.” That is exactly the language constantly used by the God of the Bible. He could not have done more to ensure His identity as a single divine Person. Isaiah 44:24: “Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer and He who formed you from the womb, ‘I am the LORD who makes everything, who stretched forth the heavens alone and by Myself. Who was with Me?’”
This and thousands of other verses were meant to build a hedge against anyone ever imagining that God was two or three! Language has no other way of expressing that great defining fact of the universe — that God is a single Person. (If, of course, one introduces into the discussion non-Biblical meanings for concepts like “person,” or unbiblical terms such as ousia [being, essence] the result is a considerable muddle and loss of revealed truth.)
Originally posted by Locoman8
In response to miriam's reply to me, I can do nothing but agree with those points. Maybe Jesus (the Word) was created by God the Father before the actual creation of heaven and earth but the fact remains, if Jesus was the beginning of creation and was considered the Word of God and later the Son of God, then you have 2nd in command in the Godhead. God the Father, Jesus the firstborn Son, and then the children of God (who have not aquired the gift of the kingdom as of yet but soon will to complete God's family). My argument was based more on the fact that there is immense scripture pointing to the fact that the "Word" of God or Jesus is the actual God of the old testament speaking to the prophets or patriarchs. Also explains Moses laying his eyes on God when in fact the scriptures tell us that no man has or can ever SEE God the Father. I also find the use of the word "US" in Genesis when explaining the creation of man quite unique. Yes, Jesus did create everything from the heavens to the earth but as miriam said, He did it in the name of God the Father.
Also miriam, I like how you worded the reply to spy66 about "sheol" and "hell". I also charge spy66 with the task of finding the other three words in the bible that translate to "hell" and find their true meanings. Here's a head start spy66.... hades, tartarus, and gehenna are all greek words that translate to "hell" in the original KJV bible. A simple google search or wikipedia search should give the real answer to you for the real meaning of those greek words.
Originally posted by spy66
I dont read the Bible i only look in the Bible now and then to check my thoughts and feelings. It dosent really matter to me who made what. I know it was Gods idea and by his authority everything was created.
I feel love because i gave God my personality. I gave God Me!!! The good and the bad Me. I love the feeling that this gives me so i work only with this feeling. It makes me a better person because i focus on caring for others. "But it is so hard to do some times"
But by all means what you all write is really good reading. But i dont think you will ever get to the bottom of it. Or in other word to the truth of the matter. Because no one can prove an other man's inspiration.
The facts lie in what you feel. And we all have different feelings Meaning we will all reach different conclusions.
Only the prophets them self can explain the facts of their words and inspiration. We can only try. But trying dont always produce actual facts. Only a interpretation of the inspired text.
Originally posted by spy66
You have to believe in all of it to start with. And to sincerely believe you have to believe in God first. And the only way you can do that is to feel something.