Originally posted by badmedia
However, I do find the opinion that you must either accept it all, or accept none of it to be a plea for ignorance. You sound like a christian when you say such things. You are just looking for an out here, and that is ok. I won't bother you as I see you are not up to the challenge, nor have any desire to further your understanding.
I'm only inquiring into your ideas about the veracity of the Bible. There's no need to become so defensive. I did not suggest that you need to take an "all or nothing" approach; that is your own projection upon more ambiguous words of mine. To restate, I am skeptical about anyone claiming to be able to personally extract real spiritual truths from what they themselves believe to be an otherwise fictional book. I did not say that I would write it off immediately without any consideration; I merely stated that any suggestion thereof would be highly suspect, and with (I believe) good reason. The trouble is that when you get into a "this is false, but that is true" pattern with a religious work, it all becomes very hazy and subjective. What would compel me to hold any faith in your personal abilities to really discern a genuine truth from something that is admittedly full of flaws? I'm forced to either trust your accuracy or disbelieve it, the latter of which would defeat the entire purpose of seeking enlightenment from your observations of the work. It then becomes a matter of faith, which I'm sure is your intent anyway, but it doesn't sit well with someone who seeks a logical approach to things. If you're only leading me down a road that finds it's terminus in faith ("Well, I believe this aspect of the book to be true."), I haven't really gotten away from what I've tried to avoid all along, have I? My question remains: how do you discern for yourself between fact and fiction in a book that you believe to be flawed? How is this objective? Or are these personal truths that you've found, and you believe them to be quite fluid and different for everyone (in other words, what you believe to be true I might find to be false, and that's okay, that's insignificant)? I'm only trying to understand your point of view.