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The Bible, Man's book or God's Word?

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posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 02:08 PM
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ah finally you bring up Russia which I had brought to your attention in a previous post which you did not address but rather ridiculed me, now I ask again who was behind the Bolsheviks and who was slaughtered in that holocaust and how many? and do not forget when you accuse certain nations you may want to look up NATO and the % of contributing nations to population and again also, rebirth/resurrection are both covered in the scriptures, of which mojammed obviously knew nothing and is the foremost clue or problemo to your argument

if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name.-1Pet4.16

"If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.-John15.18


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posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 04:01 PM
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Gday,


Originally posted by plube
There my point well answered.....LOST IN TRANSLATION


WHAT point?
WHAT, specifically, are you claiming has been lost?



Originally posted by plube
I was talking about when the king James Version was finally commissioned and lots and lots a of translations happened


What does the KJV have to do with "lost and lots" of other translations.
There are many version of the bible.



Originally posted by plube
and also many important ommissions occured so that is exactly my point. (MANS BOOK)


WHAT ommisions?
Please list them.



Originally posted by plube
and if you would be kind enough to click on the links i posted you might find other interesting information the stuff about Mithra that you keep on about...


I DID !
I read your linked site and found it was WRONG.

Mithras was NOT born of a virgin.
Your link is WRONG.

Mithras was NOT born on 25th. Dec.
Your link is WRONG.



Originally posted by plube
and you might find some enlightening things about others.


You simply BELIEVED something you heard without CHECKING.

I checked.
You didn't.
You are wrong on Mithras, and Osiris, and Attis etc.




Originally posted by plube
open mind to other possibilties....not asking anyone to discount their gods...just if your going to follow the biblical god and you believe if wholeheartedly then you know that we ate from the tree of KNOWLEDGE


Translation:
you can BELEIVE anything you want - who cares what the facts are...



Originally posted by plube
knowledge is about seeking...


Your seeking FAILED with Mithras.


Originally posted by plube
and since your all so well read up on it you will know i am right in what i say.


I DID read up - you are WRONG on Mithras etc.

You just beleived something false that you heard, without checking the facts.

Mithras was NOT born of a virgin, he was born of a ROCK.
Mithras was NOT born Dec. 25th.


So,
will YOU be checking those facts, plube?


Kap



posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by DISRAELI

And all these wars and deaths are taking place because people are believing in the Resurrection?
That was Hitler's reason for invading Poland, was it? "We Germans believe in the Resurrection, and those Poles believe in the Resurrection, and therefore we must invade them."
The whole thesis is historical nonsense.

My quoted comments have not been answered.


Before providing answers to these questions--the ultimate effect of which would be to merely perpetuate the duality (all of the questions asked by the 'thinker' are ultimately for the purpose of perpetuating the duality)--it is important to understand, in terms of consciousness, the origin of these questions in the first place.

Now, as previously explained, the 'movement' of self-reflection is the origin of the duality and the dualistic consciousness in the Buddhist and Eastern esoteric traditions; including the teaching of J. Krishnamurti. More specifically, the dualistic consciousness is observed and considered to be the origin of division, conflict and violence. (This teaching is only with regards to the dimensions of consciousness. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the belief in God inasmuch as neither Buddhism nor J. Krishnamurti believes or believed in God.)

This 'movement' of self-reflection (symbolized by the "serpent" in Genesis 3 and the "dragon" in the Revelation of John 12, and referred to by Jesus as "Satan"), then gives rise to a 3-dimensional 'curved' space--differentiating itself from the 2-dimensional 'flat' space consciousness--within which the dualistic consciousness of the "self"/"not self" exists (referred to as the "beast of the sea" in the Revelation of John).

Then, for the purpose of maintaining the temporal continuity of this dualistic consciousness of the "self"/"not self" (referred to in Genesis 3 as the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil"), the 'thinker' 'thinks' itself into existence (symbolized in Genesis 3 as the 'clothing' of Adam and Eve; and in the Revelation of John 13 (and in Sura 27:82 of the Koran) as the "beast of the earth" which speaks with the voice of the "dragon"). In other words, the consciousness of the 'thinker' speaks with the 'voice' of duality or "Satan".

To summarize, the questions you are asking here are questions of a 'thinker'; questions whose goal is to perpetuate the duality; questions which are fundamentally misdirected and quite superficially restricted to exclusively the level of dualistic thought.

In other words, like the question of the Sadducees to Jesus, you are not really in search of an answer at all. Rather, any answer that is provided would succeed only in provoking additional questions whose goal would also be to perpetuate the duality.

So, a question in turn: How many Buddhist fingers are there on the buttons of nuclear war?

Buddhism is not so much a religion, but an understanding based upon a realization of another dimension of consciousness beyond the dualistic consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker'. That is, the Buddhist adherence to non-violence is not so much a belief as the demonstration of a certain knowledge about consciousness which is not accessible to the dualistic consciousness. Thus, the Jewish, Christian and Muslim dualistic consciousness based upon the denial of the Truth about the Doctrine of "resurrection" is the origin of conflict, violence, bloodshed and warfare between Jews, Christians and Muslims.

The dimension of consciousness of the Buddhists as well as those who believe the fundamental Revelations of the Torah, the Prophets, the Gospels and the Koran, then, is a consciousness which is capable of receiving and experiencing memories of previous lives.

And, were it understood that the Revelations of the Torah, the Prophets the Gospels and the Koran originated in or were conveyed by the same dimension of consciousness as informs Buddhism--a non-dualistic dimension of consciousness which, however, is Created 'by and in the image of God'--the likelihood of a nuclear war involving the Israel, the Christian nations and the Muslim nations would be no greater than the likelihood of a nuclear war being initiated by Buddhists.

But I doubt that is sufficient to the purposes of the consciousness of the 'thinker', whose ultimate goal is not to escape the duality, but to intensify that duality to the point of annihilating human civilization itself.

Michael Cecil

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posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 05:02 PM
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did you "thinker" un"con-science"ly before you typed?

"Come now, let us reason together," says the LORD.-Is1.18

At that time the son born in the ordinary way persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now.-Gal4.29

Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle-Rev20.7

we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe.-1Tim4.10

At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, 5he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life.-Titus3.3

But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith.-1Cor15.12


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posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by Michael Cecil
To summarize, the questions you are asking here are questions of a 'thinker';

Quite so. The responses you are giving are the responses of someone who knows he has no genuine answers to the critiques of others and is trying to mask the fact.



In other words, like the question of the Sadducees to Jesus, you are not really in search of an answer at all.

So this is your excuse for not providing any answers?



Thus, the Jewish, Christian and Muslim dualistic consciousness based upon the denial of the Truth about the Doctrine of "resurrection" is the origin of conflict, violence, bloodshed and warfare between Jews, Christians and Muslims.

If you were more familiar with international politics and the history of warfare all over the world, you might think there was more to it than that.


And, were it understood that the Revelations of the Torah, the Prophets the Gospels and the Koran originated in or were conveyed by the same dimension of consciousness as informs Buddhism--a non-dualistic dimension of consciousness which, however, is Created 'by and in the image of God'--the likelihood of a nuclear war involving the Israel, the Christian nations and the Muslim nations would be no greater than the likelihood of a nuclear war being initiated by Buddhists.

It would take more than a change in the detail of religious belief to stop wars.

And you have still not demonstrated that this was the teaching of Jesus. It was not the teaching of Jesus, as you well know.



posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by DISRAELI

It would take more than a change in the detail of religious belief to stop wars.


BRILLIANT

And precisely my point.

What is needed is a fundamental shift of consciousness from the dualistic consciousness of the "self" and 'thinker' to the non-dualistic consciousness of which the Buddhists have knowledge; the consciousness Created by and in the image of God.

And what is it that is preventing this shift of consciousness within the monotheistic religions?

The dualistic, Satanic doctrine of the physical raising of a dead body from the grave when the Doctrine of "resurrection" is based upon the Revelation of the Memory of Creation and the revelation of the memories of previous lives.


And you have still not demonstrated that this was the teaching of Jesus. It was not the teaching of Jesus, as you well know.


Of course I have.

You are just not aware of it.

The Revelation of John was written by someone who had received the Vision of the "Son of man".

The Koran was dictated by someone who had received the Vision of the "Son of man", referred to as the "Night Journey".

And Jesus referred to himself as the "Son of man", a term which was taken from the Books of Daniel and Ezekiel, who had also received the Vision of the "Son of man".

In any case, your reply was so quick that there is no way on God's green earth that you could have understood my reply before responding.

This is at least inadvisable.

Michael Cecil



posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 05:28 PM
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So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.-Gen1.27

And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.-1Cor15.45

For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.-Rom8.29

Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”-John8.58

For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words, of him the Son of Man will be ashamed when He comes in His own glory, and in His Father’s, and of the holy angels.-Luke9.26


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posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by DISRAELI

If you were more familiar with international politics and the history of warfare all over the world, you might think there was more to it than that.


If you had any knowledge whatsoever of either the teaching of Krishnamurti, or the Buddhist esoteric tradition, or that there is, in fact, a third dimension of consciousness beyond and prior to the consciousness of the "self" and 'thinker', you would then understand that every problem experienced by an individual and by human civilization itself originates in the dualistic consciousness which is the origin of conflict and violence.

History is created by humans.

Humans have mostly a dualistic consciousness.

But there is another dimension of consciousness.

It's really not that difficult when you don't 'think' about it.

Michael Cecil



posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by Michael Cecil

In any case, your reply was so quick that there is no way on God's green earth that you could have understood my reply before responding.


I can read quickly enough to notice a failure to respond to a question, and perhaps my understanding is quicker than you are willing to credit. You seem to have a low opinion of the understanding of most people.

You say that Jesus was "Son of man"
So? How does that amount to proof that he taught the doctrine of rebirth?



posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by No King but Jesus
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So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.-Gen1.27

And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.-1Cor15.45

For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.-Rom8.29

Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”-John8.58


Of course. And the way the consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker' interprets this saying is that Jesus was claiming to be 'God'.

This is not at all what he was talking about.

Abraham was a "self" and a 'thinker'.

That is what a person is.

But, before there is any differentiation into "selves" in the first place, there is a 2-dimensional 'flat' space "observing consciousness" Created 'by and in the image of God' (Genesis 1:27)

And the reason why Jesus could say this is that he had a specific Memory of that consciousness through the Revelation of the Memory of Creation (Genesis 2:7).

Something that the Pharisees, Sadducees, and today's Christian and Muslim religious 'authorities' specifically deny.

Michael Cecil



posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by DISRAELI

I can read quickly enough to notice a failure to respond to a question,


Well, real quickly.

Did you notice the failure of Jesus to respond to the question of the Sadducees?

Seriously.

Did you notice that?

Their question was "Whose wife will she be?"

Tell me where, in the reply of Jesus, he says whose wife she will be 'in the resurrection'.

He doesn't respond to their question either because the question they ask makes no sense or is not in any way important.


You say that Jesus was "Son of man"


Precisely.


So? How does that amount to proof that he taught the doctrine of rebirth?


Well, you don't understand the sequence of the Revelations.

As I have already stated, the Vision of the "Son of man" is the Third Phase of the War of the Sons of Light which occurs, by means of a time-reversal, prior to the Second Phase of the War of the Sons of Light, which is the Revelation of the "resurrection" which consists of the Revelation of the Memory of Creation and the revelation of the memories of previous lives.

In other words, in order to remember having received the Vision of the "Son of man" at all, it is necessary to have received the Revelation of the "resurrection" and the understanding of that Revelation as being the foundation of a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'.

"I am merely informing you of the characteristics of the terrain upon which we have been deployed."

Michael Cecil

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posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by Michael Cecil
re of Jesus to respond to the question of the Sadducees?

Seriously.

Did you notice that?

Their question was "Whose wife will she be?"

Tell me where, in the reply of Jesus, he says whose wife she will be 'in the resurrection'.

He doesn't respond to their question either because the question they ask makes no sense or is not in any way important.


His exact response is that the question is irrelevant because, in the state of resurrection, nobody will have any wives or husbands.
The exact wording is ""When they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage".
Do you notice that phrase "when they rise from the dead"? That means the resurrection, you know.





Well, you don't understand the sequence of the Revelations.

As I have already stated, the Vision of the "Son of man" is the Third Phase of the War of the Sons of Light which occurs, by means of a time-reversal, prior to the Second Phase of the War of the Sons of Light, which is the Revelation of the "resurrection" which consists of the Revelation of the Memory of Creation and the revelation of the memories of previous lives.

And I can read fast enough to recognise meaningless garbage quite quickly.



posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 08:25 PM
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A needed clarification of the term "Son of man":

Daniel was the "Son of man".

Ezekiel was the "Son of man".

Jesus, the author of the Thanksgiving Hymns (1QH) of the Dead Sea Scrolls was the "Son of man".

The apostle Mary and the apostle John were the "Son of man".

Mohammed was the "Son of man" (the Vision being referred to in the Koran as the "Night Journey").

And, although the specific term "Son of man" had not yet been Revealed, Moses, Hagar, Enoch, Jacob, David, Elijah and Isaiah were also the "Son of man". This is just off the top of my head and to the best of my recollection.

Anyone who receives the Vision of the "Son of man" and the Revelation of the "resurrection" is referred to as the "Son of man".

This is one of the fundamental Revelations establishing the Revelational continuity between the Torah, the Prophets, the Gospels and the Koran; the other fundamental Revelation being the Revelation of the "resurrection".

On the other hand, it is the "beast of the earth" consciousness of the 'thinker' that speaks with the voice of the "serpent", the "dragon", "Satan" and duality; seeking to sow division, conflict, bloodshed and warfare between Jews, Christians and Muslims on the basis of the idolatrous and pagan metaphysical doctrines of the Jewish, Christian and Muslim religious 'authorities' in opposition to the Knowledge Revealed through both the Vision of the "Son of man" and the Revelation of the "resurrection".

Michael Cecil



posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 10:50 PM
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He then began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and after three days rise again.-Mark8.31

And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.-1John

Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son.-1John2.22



posted on Jul, 18 2010 @ 11:54 PM
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Originally posted by No King but Jesus
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He then began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and after three days rise again.-Mark8.31

And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.-1John

Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son.-1John2.22


Of course, Jesus was a unique fulfillment of the Prophecies with regards to the "Son of man", but the Prophecies with regards to the "Son of man" are not the same as the meaning of the term "Son of man" itself when used in relation to those who have received that Vision.

And, in the Koran, Mohammed clearly affirms that Jesus was the messiah in more than one Sura; while, at the same time, stating that any assertion that Jesus was 'God' is a "monstrous blasphemy".

There is a Revelational continuity between the Gospels and the Koran.

Only the 'thinker' that speaks with the voice of Satan and duality will contradict that Truth and deny that continuity.

The term "son of God", on the other hand, originates in the Revelation of the "resurrection", which includes the Revelation of the Memory of Creation; and those who receive that Revelation are referred to as the "sons of God" in Jesus' reply to the Sadducees.

Michael Cecil



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by DISRAELI

Originally posted by Michael Cecil

As I have already stated, the Vision of the "Son of man" is the Third Phase of the War of the Sons of Light which occurs, by means of a time-reversal, prior to the Second Phase of the War of the Sons of Light, which is the Revelation of the "resurrection" which consists of the Revelation of the Memory of Creation and the revelation of the memories of previous lives.

And I can read fast enough to recognise meaningless garbage quite quickly.


With regards to the Second Phase of the War of the Sons of Light, the Scroll of the War of the Sons of Light states: "And, when the hearts of the detachments of the foot-soldiers faint, then shall the might of God fortify the hearts of the sons of light."

The word "hearts" is a code word reference to the Revelation of the "resurrection" which is received in the Fourth Church or the heart chakra. This Revelation is also alluded to in the phrase "the Way of Thy heart" in the Thanksgiving Hymns of the Dead Scrolls, which were written by Jesus.

Now, with regards to the Vision of the "Son of man", there are also two other numbers which are significant: 7 and 10.

The number seven pertains to the Vision--7 Days, 7 Churches, 7 Trumpets, 7 Seals, 7 Vials, 7 angels, 7 lamps (Zechariah) and 7th lot (the Scroll of the War of the Sons of Light) which is the Third Phase of the War of the Sons of Light.

The number 10, on the other hand, refers to the 10 phonetic tones which are distributed across the 7 Churches or chakras in accordance with, roughly, the geometry of the "Tree of Life" (Genesis 3:24). And, of course, there are also 10 Commandments.

The "10 horns" on the "dragon" and the "beast of the sea" represent the 10 principal phonetic tones; which, in their temporal progression are: Long U, short u, Long and short o, Long and short A, Long and short E, short i, Long I.
(These comprise a part of the Messages to the Seven Churches in the Revelation of John.)

The ten toes on the human body can then be understood as the 10 Commandments; whereas the 10 fingers can be understood as referring to the 10 Sephirot (and, as I recall, the word "sephra" in Hebrew is the word for book and the word "sephirot" would be the plural); the adherence to the Law being the foundation of the receiving of the Vision of the "Son of man".

And books, of course, are held in the 10 fingers of the hands.

Michael Cecil

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posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 12:23 AM
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Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods'? If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came—and the Scripture cannot be broken— what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world?-John10.34

For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John.-Matt11.13

He who speaks on his own does so to gain honor for himself-John7.18

but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him.-John5.43



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 12:48 AM
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reply to post by Michael Cecil
 


Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods'? If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came—and the Scripture cannot be broken— what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world?-John10.34

For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John.-Matt11.13

He who speaks on his own does so to gain honor for himself-John7.18

but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him.-John5.43


All of this has to be understood within the context of Psalm 110:1:

"The LORD says to my Lord:
"Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet."

"The Lord" refers to the Creator.

"my Lord" refers to the "Son of man", meaning the Vision of the "Son of man".

You might want to see what Jesus says in reference to this in the Gospels.

The Jewish religious officials at the time of Jesus had, of course, no understanding whatsoever of either the significance of the Vision of the "Son of man" or the Revelation of the "resurrection".

In the Thanksgiving Hymns, Jesus wrote in this regard: "Of the Vision of Knowledge, they say 'It is unsure'. And, of the Way of Thy heart, 'It is not the Way.'"

The Vision of Knowledge is the Vision of the "Son of man".

The "Way of Thy heart" is the Revelation of the "resurrection".

And, in terms of the significance of the phonetic tones, when Jesus said: "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life"...

The Long A tone refers to the Revelation of the "resurrection"; the Long U tone refers to the Law; and the Long I tone refers to the Vision of the "Son of man".

And, by the way, whose name did Paul the Pharisee come in?

And, in addition, Jesus implied that John the Baptist was Elijah 'raised from the dead', while also Prophesying that he would return again; Mohammed being a quite specific fulfillment of that Prophecy of Jesus.

Michael Cecil

[edit on 19-7-2010 by Michael Cecil]



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 01:29 AM
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Paul came in the Name of Jesus(considered his Phariseeism and perfection by law worthless and the persecution of Christians ceased after he heard the risen Jesus voice out of heaven)

Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into the name of Paul?-1Cor1.13

The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.-Acts11.26

it is not the natural children who are God's children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's offspring.-Rom9.8

But when he, the Spirit of truth comes...He will bring glory to me..All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will take from what is mine and make it known to you.-John16.13

the law that was put into effect through angels-Acts7.53

to which of the angels did God ever say, "You are my Son-Heb1.5

David himself calls him 'Lord.' How then can he be his son?"-Mark12.37

See, the stone I have set in front of Joshua! There are seven eyes on that one stone, and I will engrave an inscription on it,' says the LORD Almighty, 'and I will remove the sin of this land in a single day.-Zech3.9

The wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf and the lion and the yearling together; and a little child will lead them.-Is11.6

law brings wrath.-Rom4.5

You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.-Gal5.4

24These things may be taken figuratively, for the women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. 25Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. 26But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother.-Gal4



posted on Jul, 19 2010 @ 05:08 AM
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Paul came in the Name of Jesus(considered his Phariseeism and perfection by law worthless and the persecution of Christians ceased after he heard the risen Jesus voice out of heaven)


Paul was a liar. He turned the Teaching of Jesus about the "resurrection" upside down. The result was the slaughter of tens of thousands of Albigensians, who taught the "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth', and the Holocaust of millions of Jews (not real sure whether you have even heard of that or not; but it did happen, despite certain denials to the contrary).

If you really want to understand how that happened, it would be helpful, first of all, for you to read more of my notes and replies on this forum and/or watch the videos and read the additional information on my website.

Secondly, it would be helpful for you to read very carefully the 12th chapter of the Book of Daniel and the 17th Column of the Scroll of the War of the Sons of Light. (I would also suggest that you read Sura 2 of the Koran very carefully, but you don't believe that the Koran is Revealed Truth, so never mind.)

And, thirdly, it would be helpful for you to understand that there is no reason for me to lie to you. I am not trying to sell you my book or any video tapes. If you believe what I am saying, I am not going to make any money from you; and, if you disbelieve what I am saying, I am not going to lose any money.

I am merely informing you of the Revelations I have received over the past 38 years (I first began receiving memories of previous lives in 1972).

It would be better if you believed that I am telling you the Truth; but that, of course, is not within my power.

I am giving you this information for free; take it or leave it.

And I am specifically not looking for any followers; as you may very well be able to discern from the tenor of my replies on this group.

Michael Cecil




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