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Originally posted by YellowAlert
reply to post by Titen-Sxull
Yes, things have been omitted from "canon" over the centuries. But the church leaders had to have some way to determine whether or not to include a writing. Otherwise, they would have compromised their beliefs. They wanted to stay as close to the Apostolic teachings as possible, because there were a lot of counterfeit Christianities floating around, like Gnosticism and Arianism. So they made a few rules and stuck by them:
1) Was the author an Apostle or someone closely affiliated with such?
2) Did most churches accept the writing as scripture?
3) Did the writing hold to accepted teachings?
4) Was the writing spiritually and morally sound?
Some books are still contested, that's why you have a different canon for Catholics and Protestants. But if you believe the Bible is God's Word, then you believe He has supernaturally assembled and preserved it; if you don't believe that, then it doesn't matter.
Originally posted by TasteTheMagick
Of course the Bible is the work of man. There's no other way that it could be in existence. The book didn't just fall out of the sky. When people tell me that the Bible is the word of God, I really do have to ask every one of them how they can say that.
The Bible is a collection of stories written by MEN. It's contradictory and makes no sense in too many cases to count.
Originally posted by desertdreamer
WOW.....I still find it unbelievable that some people never seek the truth, and are satisfied with the "easy" answers. The Bible was written by a collection of men from all different walks of life, that were CARRIED by the HOLY SPIRIT. If you know anything at all, you would understand that the Holy Spirit is God. The words were penned by mortal human hands, but inspired by divine intervention. Do some actual bible research, maybe a bible college even, educate yourself before you speak on things that you apparently know nothing about.
Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
Originally posted by desertdreamer
WOW.....I still find it unbelievable that some people never seek the truth, and are satisfied with the "easy" answers. The Bible was written by a collection of men from all different walks of life, that were CARRIED by the HOLY SPIRIT. If you know anything at all, you would understand that the Holy Spirit is God. The words were penned by mortal human hands, but inspired by divine intervention. Do some actual bible research, maybe a bible college even, educate yourself before you speak on things that you apparently know nothing about.
Wow...
The answers I have come to, as I have shown throughout this thread in multiple posts, is based on my fair share of research. I have shown logically that the Bible cannot be the perfect word of a perfect God, it may very well be divinely inspired but it is still imperfect, flawed, and self-contradictory in numerous ways. I decided, after weighing Christianity with an open and logical mind that it was not the answer, my rejection of Modern Christianity is no "easy" answer, it took years to break the programming I was beaten over the head with as a kid and recognize the imperfections in a religion (and document) that CLAIMS to have the only answers...
Any book can CLAIM to be divinely written, perfect, or the Word of God, but these claims require a skeptical mind to approach them, ignorantly buying into the first answer/religion that comes along (or that you are indoctrinated into from birth) cannot be a good thing. You must weigh the choices presented to you. I tried to be a Christian but after crying out to God to save me and show Himself to me for years I came up with a big nothing. Slowly the logic, the doubt, the Cognitive Dissonance built up, and the "truth" I was led to believe became fallible and my search for the real truth began.
But if you still disagree with my views plus offer some argument against them, mine are based on research but perhaps you're own insight is greater, please enlighten me.
I tried to be a Christian but after crying out to God to save me and show Himself to me for years I came up with a big nothing.