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reply posted on 16-1-2009 @ 01:07 PM by Heckman
Originally posted by Matyas
The MYTH engine, eh?

There are a number of engines that run on compressed air. .



Ah yes compressed air is one thing. In fact this engine may work very well in a compressed air car or a compressed air hybrid.

What we are talking about is not the part of the demo where the engine runs on compressed air. We are talking about the claim (at 4:10 in thisvideo) that the engine ran for 1000 hours with no compressed air and no fuel.

So we are not talking about compressed air here were talking about atmosphere air at ambient pressure.

This implies that the engine is supposedly capable of some sort of free energy operation by compressing atmosphere air and in turn using that compressed air to create over unity power. Or that it somehow combusts atmosphere gases without using fuel...

Unless the inventor has made giant leaps in materials sciences I dont see how this engine will operate reliably as an internal combustion engine using fuel (for the reasons I posted earlier in the thread.) let alone an engine that operates off of nothing more than atmosphere uncompressed air and no fuel.


reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 01:15 PM by MajorDisaster
reply to post by Desolate Cancer


What sort of proof could they put on the web though?

The only way to really verify things like this is to check them out in person


reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 07:25 PM by Matyas
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Those are all legit questions. The problem I have with it being a scam is it being such an extensive setup. The more complicated it gets, the more holes there are. Best to stick with a Ponzi scheme if you wanna turn some quick bucks.

I never thought it actually runs (as in creating power from) on compressed air, but rather the compressed air was driving it. Transfer of energy verses generation. Big difference, right?

And this talk if 1400'lbs torque...well, the 427 and 454 was rated at 1000 (I'm a Chevy man) I think, so it can only be from a larger model, not that dinky setup.

My father-in-law used to be a mechanic, and he did a lot of machining in Hungary. I showed him the animations, and he seemed to think it would work. So the principle is sound, its the package that looks dubious.


reply posted on 19-1-2009 @ 09:24 PM by Desolate Cancer
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No all that happened is that once people get a close look at it they realize that it is fraud or more kindly doesn't do what is claims it could do. This is another form of those free energy pundits and anti grav schemers.

We all wish it was real and thats what these parasites prey on.

I hope i am wrong though, for the benefit of humanity.


reply posted on 23-1-2009 @ 08:21 PM by plumranch

Most new engine designs that veer from the traditional crankshaft piston and rod seeking a more efficient design run into cooling , lubrication , and wear problems. For several obvious reasons.
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I think your idea about cooling and lubrication may be the problem with this design. Here is a PHOTO AND SCHEMATIC of the engine from the Angel Labs website.
Basically it is 2 donut cylinders with 8 pistons each with a gearbox between the donuts and a central shaft. Sparkplug ignition and apparently no valves. It appears to be air cooled. No fuel delivery by carb or injection is seen in the model.

If it is as fuel efficient as advertized it isn't burning much fuel so wouldn't be getting as hot (as a V8 for example). A lean fuel mixture however would cause higher cylinder head temp. and more denonation thus metal degradation.

Morgado claimed in the video that it ran better on soybean (?) biofuel. The reason there may have been that the residual oil in the fuel was used to lubricate the cylinders ie provide lubrication.

If this is anything like a 2 cycle engine and requires lubrication in the fuel therein may be the problem. We know how polluting 2 cycles are as the lubrication isn't all burned and comes out as rather foul smoke. Maybe that is why he didn't want to fire up that demo model.

Also, I Googled Raphial Morgado and didn't find anything negative. He doesn't appear to be a con man.


reply posted on 23-1-2009 @ 11:21 PM by plumranch
At the same website I found this about MYT Engine Theory

The pistons move relative to each other and stop and go creating thrust , intake and exhaust. There are no valves just intake and exhaust ports. The demo model is compression ignited (diesel) and compression is up to 70 to 1 (very high). The fuel burn is longer and thus nearly complete before the exhaust gas is expelled. Normal ICEs have burning gas exiting the exhaust valve thus waisting fuel and power. The present model is carbureted.

Cooling is a combo of air and oil cooled but the oil is the fuel. They say any fuel is possible but anything thinner than diesel could present lubrication problems.

The only points of contact in the cylinders is the rings.

To me the ingenious part is what type of linkage they use to move the pistons relative to each other and apply torque to the central drive shaft.

One of the big advantages of the motor is its power to weight ratio. It can easily attain 20 to 1 (HP/ pound engine weight) and by adding another donut cylinder can attain 40/1. Apparently nothing comes close to that now so it would be good for all sorts of power applications.

I just calculated that my 160 HP Piper aircraft would become 4000 HP using that power to weight ratio! Dittos for my pickup!
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