You wonder how such smart scientist/inventors can reach that age and still be so desperately naive. I wish them all the best of luck but that's something i do for each claim about revolutionizing ( not that this is all that much of one) the energy business. Needless to say i am still waiting for the 'revolution' and for one these inventors to become savvy enough to actually get something done.

In this business arrogance either gets you killed or the obscurity you should have enjoyed while you had the chance. If you can't afford to develop and distribute ( to say nothing of getting patent rights&defending them) your invention you are wasting your time looking for people who were smart enough to get rich and thus smart enough not to risk their necks by supporting even minor 'revolutions' in engine or energy technologies.

Stellar

'Objects in motion tend to stay in motion'

So a regular ICE has pistons that go up and down at very high rates of speed.
I wonder how much energy is consumed just rapidly reversing a piston moving upwards back to the bottom. That piston wants to keep moving up, then it's momentum is instantly reversed, then it has to move from the bottom to the top, instantly.

Take a large rock, move it rapidly up and down to see what I mean, or, get in your car, hit the gas, then throw it in reverse, then forward, then reverse, a lot of energy wasted fighting momentum.
And that's not to mention all the moving parts, no wonder an Internal Combustion Engine is only about (?) 25% efficient, or 75% in-efficient I should say.

Originally posted by BorgHoffen
Look I want one of these, I would buy it, I would like to know how to build it myself.
I am all for this kind of thing.I wish it could become reality.
But the chances are like all the rest of the things ive seen over the years.
It is just someone else telling lies to try and make themselves rich.
So they can buy themselves a tesla roadster.
I believe the real technology would be suppressed before it even gets to this forum.
The oil company's would use billions of dollars to stop its release, they could hire whole company's of mercenaries to deal with the problem.
I think these releases are just more attempts at individuals trying to make money.

They are looking for someone with $10 million to head up the franchising of retrofit garages that would replace existing engines with their engine.

Wow gee only 10 million in franchise fees?hahaha
Now we see the motives for this don't we?
Another liar trying to get rich.And very rich at that.

[edit on 14-1-2009 by BorgHoffen]

10 mil is for the cost of the plant and the payment to use that space and everything in the building and property tax and everything else ....plus labor to build the place...labor to have people run the place.

Thats were the money goes you dumb A**.

Start reading some facts, you sound like n idiot.

Originally posted by ANNED
most likely will never pass smog test in calif.

the Wankel engine went off the market because of smog control laws

Sorry, but I have to throw down a flag on that play. My Rex, the RX-8 has a Wankel engine, AKA Wankel rocket. Although, it is made in Japan, FYI.
That being said, it is not a fuel saver by any stretch.

Anyone who says it wont pass the smog test needs to brush up on basic math. If he is saying that you will get 150mpg or so in the same car with the same 10-20gal fuel tank how could it possibly guzzle fuel and pollute the air when you can use that one full tank to go ~6x farther than your 25mpg car on soybean/biodiesel. Now Im no car expert but wouldn't that mean you use 6x less fuel and produce 6x less smog? Not to mention that you are using a new type of fuel and your car is 800lb lighter.

Originally posted by Toadmund
'Objects in motion tend to stay in motion'

So a regular ICE has pistons that go up and down at very high rates of speed.
I wonder how much energy is consumed just rapidly reversing a piston moving upwards back to the bottom. That piston wants to keep moving up, then it's momentum is instantly reversed, then it has to move from the bottom to the top, instantly.

Have a look at ICE engine schematics and have a look at the role of the crankshaft. The pistons go up and down but the direction change is not instantaneous, it follows a sine curve as the crankshaft rotates.

Come on people do you really think this thing works? I mean test it in a controlled environment in a lab setting.

There are so many venture capital companies out there, people are oh the oil industry this and the oil industry that, but think for a second if some guy back in the 70's or 80's made a care that ran on water it would have been replicated many times over by other people by now.

This whole idea that the oil industry buys patents and locks them up is beyond ridiculous.

Back to the MYT engine though if this really worked I personally can point Raphael in the direction of a half dozen venture capitalists who would kill each other to be able to invest in this product.

[edit on 14-1-2009 by Desolate Cancer]

Originally posted by eaganthorn

Originally posted by ANNED
most likely will never pass smog test in calif.

the Wankel engine went off the market because of smog control laws

Sorry, but I have to throw down a flag on that play. My Rex, the RX-8 has a Wankel engine, AKA Wankel rocket. Although, it is made in Japan, FYI.
That being said, it is not a fuel saver by any stretch.

It's true though. The RX8's renesis engine is the only production Wankel engine in the world that'll meet California emissions standards as far as I know, and they went way out of their way to make it meet those standards. The RX7's engine is only allowed still because the RX7 is a very old car by now, and not subject to the same emissions standards that new cars are subject to.

Rotary engines have low compression and tend to burn oil. That doesn't tend to make them very fuel efficient, and it tends to make them comparatively highly polluting. The rotary design, however, does make for compact, mechanically simple engines with a very high power to weight ratio.

Originally posted by Desolate Cancer
Back to the MYT engine though if this really worked I personally can point Raphael in the direction of a half dozen venture capitalists who would kill each other to be able to invest in this product.

Hey, please do! If you can bring this to the attention of these venture capitalists, that would be great!

I've been following Angel Labs and the MYT engine for a while now and I'm glad it's getting some more attention these days. Unfortunately, I don't think this is going to see production. If the military says they want it, then they can legally prevent further releases of information OR completely prevent them from manufacturing the engine from a "national security" standpoint. This is probably what's going to happen, but we can keep our fingers crossed.

The technology is based on sound engineering, I'm surprised something like this hasn't been done before...

Hey!

Don't all be so pessimistic, This is America the Oil companies won't obscure this and beat it into non existence...

This man will 20 years from now have a career lecturing on how his device could have prevented ww3 when oil supplies crashed and the invention won't disappear either... This is America, there will be independent people who buy some for their sit x bunkers and I bet somewhere late night on cable I see one of these hooked up to a sex machine in Czechoslovakia or something...

Originally posted by Darthorious
My only concern is the reduction in weight and how it will affect cars/trucks on snow packed roads.

I think this is a good concern. My dad used to own a Rodeo, and my uncle had a Nissan Patrol. Whenever we went to the beach the Rodeo would get stuck in the sand while in 2WD, the Patrol didn't have that problem. The difference between the two was only about 500 pounds. Dunno if the tires also played a big difference(I think the patrol's were wider)