Oh, I linked it earlier in the thread, but I think it got talked over. Here it is again...this is a composite of two shots taken seconds apart. No smoking involved. Springer took the first one, looked at the viewer and thought it looked "blurry" (because he couldn't see good detail just looking in the viewer) and brought the camera back up and took a back-up shot. Barely moved between the two shots.



This is an adjusted (exposure and contrast) version with mark up after one of the posters here at ATS (Relentless) pointed out she saw a face forming in the "stuff".



I know that ours is not smoke related. I think yours is very similar so I don't feel it right for people to assume that it is smoke when you state emphatically there was no smoking going on in the room. I looked at your picture and kind of did some exposure and contrast changing, etc. and I felt it, too, looked like something was trying to form.

[edit on 1-17-2009 by Valhall]

Originally posted by zerozero00

Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
Its obvious to me what the cause of it is. There is a person at the bottom of the photograph. you can only see the top of their head. The rest is cut off.

The smoke comes from that direction. the anomoly in the picture is caused by the smoke of whatever that person is smoking and dont try to tell me that they arent smoking because thats the direction that the smoke is coming from. Its either that person or the person holding tha camera...

By the way, I purposley didnt read the thread because I didnt want my opinion to be swayed one way or the other.

But that IS my opinion, the smoke is coming from the person at the bottom of the picture.

Nothing ghostly about this pic unfortanatley. Thanks for sharing with us though. Im glad you posted the picture, when in doubt I always post because chances are there is someone on ATS who will know the answer for sure.

Peace

Dust

[edit on 14-1-2009 by gimme_some_truth]

READ THE THREAD!!!

THERE IS NO SMOKE IN THIS ROOM!!!!!

First off stop yelling! That kind of behavior is not allowed on ATS. So stop it before you get yourself banned.

Second, I did, and I do not appreciate your lame accusation.

Third. Yes there is. whether the hooka is broken or not, you have to admit that its presence along with the glasses of whine and whatnot sure doesnt bode well for your claim that there was no smoke.

Come on, im not stupid. Neither are the rest of us here on ATS. That is smoke.

Look Im not trying to indicate that your a liar, because I dont think thats your intention. I am trying to point out that you are mistaken, and there is nothing wrong with that.

It is smoke whether you believe it or not. There have been examples shown in this thread of photos of smoke, but you say it looks nothing like your photo. Well, they do,

When it comes to ghosts, ghost photos, ghost investigations and ghost photo analysis I have been around the block and back quite a few times.

Whether you know what smoke looks like or not, I do. That is smoke.

period. I do not believe you when you say it is not smoke, because it IS.


I do believe in ghosts and have had multiple experiences with them so dont try to play the "you just dont believe" card.

I know you want it to be a ghost real bad, but on this site you have to open your mind to more than just your own point of view. If you dont you will never learn a thing. Just wanting it to be a ghost is not enough.

Something you may not know about ATS is that when we anylize a photo we have a near perfect record of geting it correct. We are smarter than you give us credit for.

When you put up your picture you put it up against some of the smartest most experienced people in the world. We always figure out what is going on in each picture.

what is going on in YOUR picture is that some one off screen is smoking. The smoke got in the frame. Simple as that. Now you dont have to accept the truth if yoou dont want. Thats up to you, but hey, anytime you change your mind. the truth is right here!

Good Day!

I guess the part I'm having trouble with from the "it's just smoke" explanation is the part I have circled in this copy of the pic...



That does not appear to be smoke that has originated off camera. That appears to be two small origination points that are very bright and distinct and it appears the "stuff" is issuing from those two points in that part of the picture.

I'm just not sure it's wise to just dismiss as off camera smoke without looking a little closer at it first. Especially when you have some one telling you no one was smoking. I don't understand why a broken hooka is being used as evidence there has to be smoking going on in the house. I also don't see any glasses of wine, but I wouldn't know what that had to do with the picture either even if I did see them.

[edit on 1-18-2009 by Valhall]

I have a question for the OP, the girl who is hiding her face from the camera, does she have a shirt on under the blue one or is her chest beat red like that? That could be a sign of being really nervous. Was she the 'white witch'?

[edit on 19-1-2009 by VintageEnvy]

I think that Hookah is haunted...i believe it is the source for this ectoplasm. Perform and exorcism right now!

zero - firstly congrats for not ripping your hair out or smashing your computer after the constant attacks in this thread.

Secondly - Do you think it's possible that the Ghost or Apparation is the person actually doing the smoking since there is nothing burning in your house??? I mean, this would totally explain why it looks like smoke right

Lung cancer or TB would have caused some of the deaths in that graveyard and perhaps the entity cannot release their soul and is eternally angry at smoke or cant stop smoking or something along those lines etc.

[edit on 20-1-2009 by Nick_X]

I have to say, I find this very hard to believe.

Cigarette smoke is something I see everyday, funnily enough. It is the exact same sight.

That smoke had been lingering there for a few minutes, smoke can take up to 20 minutes to settle,and often floats just like that in many different layers.

Apologies if you reallllllllly didn't have anyone smoking in there, but can you blame me? Come on, it looks EXACTLY like cigarette smoke.

To whoever says cigarette smoke cannot be blue, you're wrong. It very often looks blue in the right light.

[edit on 20-1-2009 by GodForbid]

u posted this on a conspiracy site,,,where peoploe give their opinions

you knew this---why are you mad when people give their opinion????
most think it's smoke--you don't--and after the barrage you took,, i think you do believe that or a dedicated liar, hoaxer,,which seems less likely

however,, do you realize most crap on here is either fake ufo's or people wanting attention or who get off on hoaxing others

so,,,you should have expected skepticism and ,,,if your honest,,,,,you could admit ,,,it does look awful similar to smoke that we've all seen

so what do u want,,,,,i realize your belief,,,which may be true

but if you didn't want naysayers you shouldn't have posted this here


you might as well giveup and be happy with the few believers who agreed with you

Yeah, its smoke and the orbs are dust. Case closed. Please stop trying to fool people here and insulting our intelligence with the lame pictures of smoke and dust. You havent posted any orb pictures that havent been edited and your so called ectoplasm is obviously smoke. Im sure there wasnt anyone smoking at the time the picture was taken because the smoke is settled, it could have been up to 10 minutes earlier. The anomalies close to the people are caused by movement and breathing.

Please find some other forum if you cant take criticism. You cant just post pictures of smoke and dust and make us believe what it obviously isnt, even though you want it to be what you claim it is.

it says all the pictures have been deleted or moved?