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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 08:27 PM by slicobacon
reply to post by jsobecky


Well, it wasn't really a lie. Keep in mind, his whole campaign was based on "hope". We got what he said, "hope" for awhile, but now reality!


reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 03:03 AM by jsobecky
reply to post by Hendu



That is the point. It does nothing to stimulate *new* job creation; those people would most likely have been hired anyway.

Also, what's to prevent an employer from laying off 200 workers, and then hiring them back to get the tax credit?

Not well thought out, not at all.


reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 11:24 AM by greeneyedleo
Originally posted by slicobacon
reply to post by jsobecky


Well, it wasn't really a lie. Keep in mind, his whole campaign was based on "hope". We got what he said, "hope" for awhile, but now reality!


Uh. No it wasnt. It was based on "change".



reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 11:53 AM by moonrat
Gordon Brown is trying that very same tactic here in England.

Pay an employer two and a half grand (about a months reasonable wages) to hire someone for an unspecified duration of time, to perform a job that does not exist in the vain hope that throwing more money into an ever increasing hole will save his political career.

It won't work.

It is impossible to create a profit by forcing companies to do things that nobody wants.

A consumer society that relies on people buying and selling crap will never be self sustaining.

You have actually got to be able to MAKE useful things, and, seeing as our economy has been involved in making things that don't exist as real entities for the last twenty years, instead of real objects, it is hardly surprising that everything is turning into #. Because that is what it is. #.

There are not many engineers left any more.

School leavers can't write, speak or do basic math anymore.

They all think that selling # made by someone else is the way forward ... and it ain't.

They all think the world owes them a living and it most certainly does not.

They think that they can waltz into any job they desire and earn a living by doing nothing useful ... because that is what they have been taught to believe.

They can't.

It is not possible to run a modern economy with people who think that pop stars and 'celebrity' and all the #e broadcast in the popular media is a sustainable way to make a living.

It isn't.

And our youth are not qualified to anything else other than to watch the telly and think that the world owes them a living.

It doesn't, never did and never will.

Gordon Brown has wrecked England. He should be tried for treason.

And then hung.


reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 01:03 PM by jsobecky
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic




Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by jsobecky
Do you remember him saying (paraphrased) "If I am elected, I will give a tax credit of $3,000 to businesses for each new job they create".


You know, I really don't. Do you? Because I thought the$3000 tax incentive for businesses was a recent idea - a proposal for his economic stimulus package. I don't remember it being a campaign promise...

And from your source:


Obama Shelves Jobs-Credit Proposal

Obama suggested the $3,000-per-job credit last week as one of five individual and business tax incentives aimed at winning Republican support.
www.washingtonpost.com...


Could you present a source that talks about this campaign promise? I can't find it.




From the same paragraph you cited:


Obama suggested the $3,000-per-job credit last week as one of five individual and business tax incentives aimed at winning Republican support. He proposed $300 billion in tax relief in a bill that could reach $775 billion, and he resurrected the jobs-credit proposal from the campaign trail as one of his main provisions.


Plus, a video showing him proclaiming it has been showed all day long. Not sure if it was during the campaign, but it sure seems like it was.


reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 01:12 PM by jjkenobi
Originally posted by jsobecky
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic




Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by jsobecky
Do you remember him saying (paraphrased) "If I am elected, I will give a tax credit of $3,000 to businesses for each new job they create".


You know, I really don't. Do you? Because I thought the$3000 tax incentive for businesses was a recent idea - a proposal for his economic stimulus package. I don't remember it being a campaign promise...

And from your source:


Obama Shelves Jobs-Credit Proposal

Obama suggested the $3,000-per-job credit last week as one of five individual and business tax incentives aimed at winning Republican support.
www.washingtonpost.com...


Could you present a source that talks about this campaign promise? I can't find it.




From the same paragraph you cited:


Obama suggested the $3,000-per-job credit last week as one of five individual and business tax incentives aimed at winning Republican support. He proposed $300 billion in tax relief in a bill that could reach $775 billion, and he resurrected the jobs-credit proposal from the campaign trail as one of his main provisions.


Plus, a video showing him proclaiming it has been showed all day long. Not sure if it was during the campaign, but it sure seems like it was.



You are going to be a very busy person if you start a post for every broken campaign promise.

I hope you have an ergonomic keyboard.


reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 01:42 PM by nyk537
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


This is something he mentioned on the campaign trail. In fact, he brought this up during one of the debates with McCain.

I'll see if I can find the video.
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