interesting read... thanks for the link i will investigate further when i have more time.

just to play devils advocate for a minute....
what if the ufo disclosure came back as "we have never been contacted by aliens and we have nothing to show that aliens have ever been here".
i know for some that this would not be acceptable but if it was the factual truth then what ? where would you go from here ? what about those that had claimed alien visitation ? what if we never make contact with an intelligent alien civilization ?

Optyk Phyba, you and I posted at the same time. (See mine immediately previous to yours) You are chiming in -more- with where I'm coming from.

I have a different take on this. I think the majority of the people will not freak out, I think they will accept it as something they knew would eventualy happen sooner or later. I believe we all intuitively know that there is other life in the universe. If you can believe our history, when we discovered new lands with strange people with a strange language we did not freak out. No one thought it was the end of the world and religions did not collapse. People then excepted that fact that there are other civilizations on our world that need to be discovered and looked forward to it. The universe is too big to comprehend with a passing thought. We know other life exsists in the universe and I for one would like to meet another life form from outside our solar system. To me it would be like meeting someone from another country on this earth that I have not yet met. Our world will be expanding into the universe sooner than you think, it is something you will have to except sooner than later.

Roswell was 'Project Mogul', NOT an "alien crashed spaceship".

Originally posted by simonecharisse
Roswell was 'Project Mogul', NOT an "alien crashed spaceship".

Fair enough
Let me ask you this, Which version of the Governments truth are you believing?

They have released now 3 or 4 versions of the events that took place that night and also that link covers other crashes way before and some after Roswell.

So saying Roswell was project mogul ok fine go with that I won’t try to open your eyes I mean disagree with your opinion.



[edit on 13-1-2009 by SLAYER69]

My eyes got open'd when I returned to looking through the Bible, after rejecting, ignoring, and ridiculing such, after many years.
But---to each his own. You are on a separate path then mine, and will 'go' where you want and need to, as is the case with us all.

Originally posted by optyk phyba


yep i read that thread and i must say that i felt completly insulted and offended by it. humans arent the imbasilic fools it implies.

Well I guess you really didnt read it after all.
Oh well so much for Denying Ignorance as we say here at ATS.

Originally posted by ravenshadow13
That is really interesting. I'm sure disclosure will really freak out the following communities:

Really religious people
Scientists and doctors concerned with disease
Evolutionists
Creationists
Little kids
The elderly
People who think the government has told them everything
Animals and plants who may not react well with new compounds or virus-type things
People in the field of research
People in the field of education
and Partridges in Pear Trees everywhere.

What about the media...LOL

It dont matter what happend.. this is clear here

god made us or he didnt..

the facts on the ground ie science and math show us life is out there.

That gives rise to the possiblity they are infact here! Now i dont know how long for i dont know that !!

but logical science and math tells us this "thats how we get to mars and the moon".. still lots of questions,

you can still belive in god like me and still think aliens are real.. here or not.. they can be proven "in my relatiy" being a carbon based lifeform IT CAN HAPPEN..

Now the other flip side is NOt knowing thats the question here.. is it that we have not knowing for so long as humans wwe would totaly get pissed off.. well hell yeah!! if my dad was my mom after 20/2000 i would be pretty pissed and confused..

thats what the guys face and we do as humans.. can we infact move to that next level...

and as i look out my window.. I cant see it happening.. we are just to dumb and petty

mememememem = our life right now

sad but hey who cares long as IM happy....

The reason there hasn't been disclosure before now is that it will only take humans a short while to discover who the Aliens really are.

We will figure out that the aren't really aliens, just advanced beings quarantined here with us on this toxic dump of a planet.

When we figure out who they really are and what they have been doing to us, we will understand how to circumvent them and the jig will be up.

If Disclosure was to happen it would be used to form a One World Government.

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or *promulgated* [emphasis mine], that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this *scenario*, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

Promulgated in the context it was used in Kissinger's quote indicates that a invasion event can be Falsely created to take the serfs rights away from them.

I hope for disclosure, sadly i think if they ever do it will not be in the near future.

Interesting but doubtable.

I don't believe that aliens are here to harm us outside of the Zeta Reticulans(greys) which we supposedly signed a treaty with to waive their abductions.

I think humans are the real aliens. Think of a peaceful race looking at us.

Bottom line, research the Tibetan alien prophecy inbetween 2010-2012 they are suppose to present themselves in a way that will not scare us, and in a way to better mankind.

If that's whats going to happen, like the resource said, Christians and some other religions will claim they are the work of Satan that is because they are not of a human embodiement... More power to their idiocy.

Honestly, I don't care if they come here and wipe out every last one of us it'd be better for the health of the universe, isn't it time we stopped thinking about ourselves? That won't happen however, because if it we're to it would of happened 60 somewhat years ago (nuclear bombs can see from quite a distance.)