Turkey: Antisemitism Gets Out of Control

Turkey: Antisemitism Gets Out of Control

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Although I know some people here on ATS who consider every form of criticism on Israel anti-Antisemitism, I agree that anti-Semitism, especially in Muslim countries, is getting out control.

It's been more than 60 years ago that the Holocaust began and we should all continue to be aware that something like that could easily happen again. Who would ever think a second world war would take place only two decades after a first, very bloody world war, happened.

Personally, I radically disagree with the Israeli government. However, I find it really scary that people start blaming the Jews for this and the hatred that goes along with it.



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[edit on 1/14/2009 by semperfortis]

I just see the same old game..nothing new. They find some reason to blame America or Israel so that its citizens will forget about its own country's problems. Probably the safest way for them to stay in power.

Israel and the US are to blame. Particularly the United States of Hypocrisy is to blame. The US has the power to allow Israel to be above the law while it forbids other countries to act like that. Sure, Hamas is also to blame. But p-l-e-a-s-e, stop the self-pity.

However, that doesn't mean Jews should be blamed for what is going on or that Israel should be destroyed.

No self pity here. It is what it is. If Arabs countries couldn't give their people reason to hate Israel and the West, they would be overthrown in an heartbeat. And there isn't one country that doesn't play the Hypocrisy game at what time or another.

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Actually, I think in the west we've given them pretty good reasons ourselves.

I'm actually tired of posting this for people to look at.

There are many other examples - perhaps you should read them, and then make an informed judgement.

Apparently Turkish politicians don't know that everyone from the Middle East is a Semite. Anti-semitism - God, I hate that term.

Yes, you act like a Nazi, you are treated like a Nazi. I fail to see how Gaza is different from something like Warsaw Ghetto.

I have witnessed everyone I know totally losing respect and sympathy for Israel. This includes me.

So Israel, you blew it big time. Everyone knows Israel is a fascist apartheid state. Expect no sympathy. The world will turn against Israel. I hope that even the United States regains sanity and will stop supporting Nazisrael now.

These Nazi actions by Israel have to stop.

And I was pro-Israel such a short time ago. Well I was wrong. Israel can expect absolutely no sympathy from me in the future.

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I would say its hardly anti semitism to protest and be angry about another group of people that are killing and stealing from your race. There are hundreds of thousands of iraqi's protesting americas war of aggression there, and throwing shoes in the streets and calling out "death to america" but that is hardly put in the news and criticized as racism or "anti americanism". The whole "anti semitism" thing is just a propaganda act to paint anyone who disagrees with israel as racists and hate mongers, and to cover up the racism, genocide and hate mongering that israel is perpetrating.

Genocide?

2 plus million sitting in the West bank sipping on their ice tea and you want to call it a genocide.

Not everyone in the Middle East is Semite.

The Persians and the Turks are not Semites. A number of other small ethnic groups aren't Semite either. The Middle East is not 100% Arab. There are dozens of small ethnic minorities, whose populations number in the hundreds of thousands, across the Middle East.

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And the word "antisemitism" doesn't mean "against semitic peoples", it means "anti-Jewish".

It always has; that's what it was coined to mean. A word's definition does not depend on it etymology but on its usage.

Otherwise, awful and wonderful ("full of awe" and "full of wonder") would be synonyms.

Plus: the difference between being "anti-Israeli" and "anti-Jewish" or "antisemitic" is pretty clear.

If you blame the Jewish faith or all Jews for the actions of the state of Israel, that is antisemitism. If you say "kill Jews" (a quote from the article) that is not a political disagreement with the state of Israel, that is an antisemitic statement.

There are obviously anti-semitism in the world, but Israel just does it's best for worsening it. Why? Because it's in it's interest.





I fail to see how those quotes are anti-semitic. They are not. Israel is making a massacre in Gaza, most of the world agree. And Israel, if it cannot behave, should move somewhere else, to the USA or be disbanded all together and do a christian, muslim and jew country, policed and armed with UN troops.

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You also fail to see how this is anti-Semitic?

your right, not genocide, the correct term would be ethnic cleansing.

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WE WILL NOT GO DOWN (Song for Gaza)
(Composed by Michael Heart)
Copyright 2009


A blinding flash of white light
Lit up the sky over Gaza tonight
People running for cover
Not knowing whether they’re dead or alive

They came with their tanks and their planes
With ravaging fiery flames
And nothing remains
Just a voice rising up in the smoky haze

We will not go down
In the night, without a fight
You can burn up our mosques and our homes and our schools
But our spirit will never die
We will not go down
In Gaza tonight

Women and children alike
Murdered and massacred night after night
While the so-called leaders of countries afar
Debated on who’s wrong or right

But their powerless words were in vain
And the bombs fell down like acid rain
But through the tears and the blood and the pain
You can still hear that voice through the smoky haze

We will not go down
In the night, without a fight
You can burn up our mosques and our homes and our schools
But our spirit will never die
We will not go down
In Gaza tonight

when will turkey get out of Cyprus?.. Iran could give hamas a piece of land the size of Israel and not miss it..

Historically and traditionally you are right.

In this new age of politically correct newspeak many have altered the original meaning to encompass all Semites, though that was never the original intent.

Anti-Semite?

Anti-Semite...

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That would require me hating their religion.



I don't see their religion.

I see their tanks, their walls, their planes, and their bombs.
I hate their tanks, their walls, their planes, and their bombs.

How can I hate something which I cannot see for the armor, and the hail of death from above?

The country gives the order, and the steel rolls forth, screeches through the air, and destroys cities with families still inside.

I have too much hatred for their government and military at the moment to give a damn about their religion.



I cannot see a persons religion to hate it, if I'm blind with rage toward the person himself.

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Pro-Palestinian = Anti-Semetic
Pro-Israeli = Doesn't lable people as racist

Why can't people speak out for whoever they want? Why is only one opinion or belief politically correct?

In my view this is far from democratic and very hypocritical and almost oppressive.

Regards,

Another Anti-Semite.