just wanted to point out that the pineal gland is pine cone shaped, obviously from the discussion.

The pineal gland has also been referred to as the "pineal eye", an element of the spiritual world view and "seat of the soul".

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Originally posted by LiveFreeOrDie..
just wanted to point out that the pineal gland is pine cone shaped, obviously from the discussion.

The pineal gland has also been referred to as the "pineal eye", an element of the spiritual world view and "seat of the soul".

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The pineal gland is still a big mystery to much the medical world. It produces DMT, and is what makes us dream, and under certain conditions(drugs, deep meditation), hallucinate. It used to be said that it was the only part of the brain that didn't have 2 separate parts to it, but just recently under certain conditions, did we find out that it does indeed have two separate parts to it.

It does have many names to it, but it is normally referenced as the "eye of the soul". If you're even more interested in the pineal gland, I suggest you read DMT The Spirit Molecule by Rick Strassman. He talks about medically inducing people who are willing to experiment with DMT. It also goes in-depth on the pineal gland, and how it operates. On top of it all, its a nice and easy read. I suggest you check it out.



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lycopersicum, just let it go man, "What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it... well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men....."

Originally post by Kandinsky


So, it looks to me like there is nothing here to suggest any evil intent. The human mind is a funny thing, and it is very good at pattern recognition, so I think that different people see different things in this shape. I think that most of you are just seeing what you want to see. In my opinion there is no conspiracy here and this thread is a dead end.

And thats what I've been trying to say all along.

Originally posted by TravisT

Originally post by Kandinsky


So, it looks to me like there is nothing here to suggest any evil intent. The human mind is a funny thing, and it is very good at pattern recognition, so I think that different people see different things in this shape. I think that most of you are just seeing what you want to see. In my opinion there is no conspiracy here and this thread is a dead end.

And thats what I've been trying to say all along.

just as some of you choose NOT to see what you don't want to see. wouldn't it be better to take the middle ground and say WE all are seeing what WE want to see so we can all just get along, lol. so lighten up, jeez.

I accept that you don't see anything wrong here and are entitled to that, but to insinuate that those of us that acknowledge that there MAY be something else going on is just plain narrow minded.

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Originally posted by LiveFreeOrDie..
If you live your life basing everything on "solid" evidence, then you must be one stressed dude.

How does asking for proof on a forum equal "stressed out"?

I come here to investigate, and have new ideas brought to my attention. Just because I'm asking questions, and wanting proof, shouldn't be looked down upon. If I do recall correctly, you were the first to smite me, so I would only assume someone with the passion to do so, would have more knowledge then I? So far, nothing new has been brought to the table other then assumptions and interpretations. If thats as far as this thread goes, then there is nothing here of substance.

Originally posted by LiveFreeOrDie..


I accept that you don't see anything wrong here and are entitled to that, but to insinuate that those of us that acknowledge that there MAY be something else going on is just plain narrow minded.

Not at all, and I actually addressed this about 5-10 posts above when I said, ......

Originally posted by TravisT


Sure, it looks like an eye, but thats were everything stops for me. I'm not saying I don't believe that there are secret societies/cults that have very real rituals, but I don't think a shape, that happens to look like an eye, should be linked to anything without actual proof.

Its not "narrow minded", as you so easily like to put it. If there is facts or proof that link to the original question to this thread, then we should find it. I understand the symbols, the cults, ceremonies, etc etc, but to link it to this 9-11 footage is whats at question. I can't find a link, and you haven't brought one to the table either. All we see is interpretations, which is hardly enough for a conspiracy. Which again, was my original point.

This is a surviving mosaic at the former WTC Subway station.

The mosaic is entitled Oculus. Another coincidence!

This New World Order Satanic symbol is known as Oculus.
An artwork entitled Oculus (Eye) has been installed all over the Chambers Street/World Trade Center station complex. Created by Kristin Jones and Andrew Ginzel, Oculus consists of 300 different mosaic eyes, all based upon actual human eyes taken from photographs–not computer generated...The gods were impressed by the devotion of Isis and thus restored Osiris to life in the form of a different kind of existence as the god of the underworld...The myth described Osiris as having been killed by his brother Seth who wanted Osiris’ throne. Isis briefly brought Osiris back to life by use of a spell that she learned from her father. This spell gave her time to become pregnant by Osiris before he again died. Isis later gave birth to Horus. As such, since Horus was born after Osiris’ resurrection

"The former World Trade Center Station is situated at the northeast corner of the site. The station was flooded and closed to the public following the September 11, 2001 attack. The site was damaged but not destroyed, and it reopened eight months later with the work mostly intact. Oculus was recognized as “an unexpected monument” by the Wall Street Journal on September 11, 2003.

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