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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 08:08 AM by Trolloks
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isn't is highly possible that the phrase "new order of the ages" on the back of the dollar bill is referring to the old nickname of america, being
"the new world"??
And it did then have a complete new order. No monarchy, but presidency. Also, was it not designed after america got their independence? Breaking away
from europe? so there we have a new order, in a new world, representing a "new, world, order"
Also, with the eye of houris in the brain, what are the shaded areas? I can only see two area's labeld, and the rest of the eye simply drawn on over
the top.
As for the original post, im sorry but i believe it to represent more of a tear than an eye. I can see an eye when i look, but only because i want to
see an eye, when i put logic to it, i can see its shape.
Good idea for a thread though, brings out debate.
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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 08:12 AM by thefreepatriot
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The key thing here is that the all seeing eye comes from the egyptian eye of horus... This is what inspired it.. So if the eye was meant to be a
ritual to symbolise the modern eye symbol.. in reality the symbol is the eye of horus as this is where it came from. Yes there is no way to prove that
the ceremony was in fact designed to look like the eye...but there is always the possibility that it was...
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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 08:18 AM by Trolloks
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i know that it originated from the eye of houris, but doesnt mean it has the same meaning, that could be why it is different.
We originate from apes (if darwin is right) but doesnt mean we are the same as them. Also, the eye has constantly been used in ancient symbolism, and
still used today for many reasons. The eye is a strong way to represent anything, security, door to soul, spying, anything with visual attached to
it.
I am not saying you are false, but that theres many aspects that need to be cleared up before we can make such a claim. I cant remember who said this
famous quote, but "extraordinary assumptions require extraordinary evidence"
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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 08:23 AM by lycopersicum
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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 08:25 AM by TravisT
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Originally posted by LiveFreeOrDie..
Originally posted by TravisT
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
Oh come on guys, you're looking for patterns and seeing them because you want them to be there. They are standing around a circular object, and so
they took up that formation, seems perfectly logical to me.
I agree, and I'm just shocked by how many S&F this gets from one video of people
forming around a circle. I guess if a mod posts this, then its 100% true in conspiracy.
I really miss ATS in the '02-'04 days, before people wold cry "witch" to any kind of shape, pattern, thought, or story they heard.
Deny Ignorance? Go figure.....
Ever consider the possibility that people's minds and eyes are just more open now to what may be happening around them? Actually, no , you probably
wouldn't. Do you not think this kind of paranoid thinking has been going on forever? "Burn the witch! Get the demons out! Jesus is
returning this year!"
This isn't new thinking just because of ATS and the way the world is turning out. And its statements like, "have you ever considered that...no, you
probably haven't", is why I'm so disgusted over this site.
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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 08:33 AM by prometheus1111
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Looks like an eye yes but it looks like a Pinecone even more. The pinecone is scattered through almost every culture representing the pineal gland.
Even the vatican has the pine cone in front of an egyption secophogus. The pinecone is on the Popes staff as well.
David Wilcock is onto something here I dont care what anyone says.
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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 08:33 AM by LiveFreeOrDie..
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
Actually the symbol is Novus ordo seclorum which is Latin for New Order of the Ages
IF it really meant New World Order it would be Novus Ordo Mundi
At the end of the day, you'll see what you want to see, as will I.
Cheers
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The symbol is Novus Ordo Seclorum? What is that supposed to mean? The latin phrase is just that, just a phrase thats part of the bigger symbol, just
as "Don't Tread on Me" is a phrase below the snake.
New Order of the Ages can't mean New World Order?  Are you trying to say that because the the wording doesn't say "New World Order" precisely
then it can't mean that?
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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 08:36 AM by Trolloks
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very interesting, i have been trying to find a link for a wile, and this does back it up.
Im not disregarding that fact that there could very well be something hidden in this ceromony, but with everything, you need to look at both sides to
validate claims.
No doubt 9/11 was the government, ive looked at both sides heavily since i started looking into this stuff 6 years ago, and the governments side of
the story keeps changing and has far too many wholes in.
Once again, 2 planes, 3 buildings.
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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 08:37 AM by lycopersicum
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yes but history is history unless we learn from we can not get to the future the ritual performed on 9/11 wasnt paranoia it did happen
and jsut because someone usess the phrase have you considered
maybe they where just not up on ancient history so dont fault the whole site or the OPer for not being up on ancient history and other people
awareness of ancient history
alot of people make the mistake and think (if i dont know they must not know )
if you know what i mean
but still dosent change the fact that it was ritualistic in nature and the whole day initself was related to their belief 9-11-4001 bc being day of
creation is a very very important day in ancient history
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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 08:49 AM by lycopersicum
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the whole goverment is an Ocult thing every thing they do is a ritual performed a certin way at a certin time on a certin day
and they never never faulter to perform them wether they work or not is moot they are still performed with the hope that they will work
this is what he was saying really really listen to what he says closely
IT will truelly give you chills
dont just watch it really listen to it
www.youtube.com...
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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 08:53 AM by TravisT
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Thanks for the reply, although, I am a bit confused at a few of your points.
How was this ceremony "ritualistic", other then the fact that it was trying to commemorate all those that died on 9-11? It was a marching band that
went around the circle, and there was only one entrance, to which, was also the exit.
Were they not supposed to show any kind of empathy for all those that died? That was the point of the ceremony. Not to show that the world is going to
unite in one world order under the Illuminati regime.
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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 08:55 AM by LiveFreeOrDie..
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Originally posted by TravisT
Do you not think this kind of paranoid thinking has been going on forever? "Burn the witch! Get the demons out! Jesus is returning this
year!"
This isn't new thinking just because of ATS and the way the world is turning out. And its statements like, "have you ever considered that...no, you
probably haven't", is why I'm so disgusted over this site.
There is a big difference between witch burning and the probability that there is a group of people that want to control the world and everyone in
it.
Witch burning was hysterical paranoia without basis in documented evidence.
There is documented evidence that supports the theory that there is/are a group/groups of people that want to control the world and all of us in it
and that they are occult oriented. Groups like the Bilderbergers, the CFR and others are real and evidence of their agendas are in plain sight.
Look at history. What was the British Empire trying to achieve at it's peek? What was the Roman Empire trying to achieve? World dominance, control of
everyone and everything in it.
ATS originated as a forum for people to present theories such as this and others. These organizations and agendas have existed long before ATS has.
ATS coming along has nothing to do with making people think these things. It is simply a place to discuss them.
I think that the fact that you ridicule and mock those that at least acknowledge that theories presented in this forum are possible as well as
people's religous beliefs proves my point.
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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 09:01 AM by Chadwickus
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Originally posted by LiveFreeOrDie..
New Order of the Ages can't mean New World Order?  Are you trying to say that because the the wording doesn't say "New World Order" precisely
then it can't mean that?
Well, in short, no!
Novus Ordo Mundi = New World Order.
Novus ordo seclorum = New Order of the Ages.
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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 09:01 AM by LiveFreeOrDie..
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yes but history is history unless we learn from we can not get to the future the ritual performed on 9/11 wasnt paranoia it did happen
and jsut because someone usess the phrase have you considered
maybe they where just not up on ancient history so dont fault the whole site or the OPer for not being up on ancient history and other people
awareness of ancient history
alot of people make the mistake and think (if i dont know they must not know )
if you know what i mean
but still dosent change the fact that it was ritualistic in nature and the whole day initself was related to their belief 9-11-4001 bc being day of
creation is a very very important day in ancient history
very well said.
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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 09:01 AM by lycopersicum
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totaly spot on
its all been going on since one man started to control another
back way way in the day LOL when they didnt even know what fire was ,they knew they needed it and could use it but didnt even know it was fire
hehehe
it wasnt named yet
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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 09:03 AM by jfj123
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looks like the cleaning tool to clean out copper water pipe prior to soldering.
I think this is one of those times where you can imagine it to be pretty much anything you want it to be.
For example: Bunny shapes in the clouds
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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 09:04 AM by silo13
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Coincidence - or not - I'm not willing to give anyone the benefit of the doubt any longer...
This time especially.
*P*E*A*C*E*
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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 09:06 AM by lycopersicum
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a ceremony is part of a ritual
thats why !
it was performed in a precise manner
im not deminishing peoples deaths in any way i feel betrayed by my gov for not stoping the deaths wich could have been
but it still dosent change the fact the leaders of NYC are in the know and told who was to cordinate the comemorative ceremony how it was to be
performed
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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 09:09 AM by lycopersicum
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yes it dose dosent it
david is truely on to somthing with the pineal gland and all /pincones on staves and huge pincone statues
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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 09:14 AM by LiveFreeOrDie..
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as I said earlier, it was an opportunity for those "above" us to practice deciet and deception toward the chattle.
On one hand it was definetely a ceremony to honor the victims and their memory, to the general public, but on the other hand it looks suspiciously
like an occult ritual including the "eye" or pinecone for those on the other side of the coin.
The evil gaining power by letting us think the ceremony meant one thing when in fact it likely was a ritualistic cermony for them.
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