Caylee Anthony Case: The shovel and the pavers, page 4
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reply posted on 22-1-2009 @ 11:28 AM by Morningglory
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Thanks for your time and efforts Valhall. I will be looking forward to reading your thread.

I think you're right about the extent of Cayce's lies. For one so young to have spun such a web of deceit tells me she has been at it for sometime. A real case study.

Verylowfrequency mentions the "death decoration" as sending a message to those finding Caylee. Very strange indeed why add the heart on top of something as gruesome as duct tape wrapped around a child's mouth? Love and tenderness after the fact? After death why not remove the duct tape first if the heart was meant as a "loving gesture?" The heart sticker being placed on top of the duct tape just seems too odd and twisted to signify tenderness. Unless it was done in haste.


reply posted on 22-1-2009 @ 11:42 AM by silo13
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Oh yeah. I forgot why I came back to this thread one last time.
This thread makes me think there should be an "Unsolved Crimes" forum on ATS. God knows there are always a half dozen or more unsolved mysteries in the news on a regular basis. And thats not including some old historical cases as well.


I hope you suggest this - in fact, please suggest this! Would be an awesome add on to ATS!

This thread goes to prove what a great mind and terrier like determination can do - and I mean that as a compliment!

Valhall I hope you send this on to someone like Nancy Grace (as was suggested).

A-1 Post! S&F!

peace

I hope



reply posted on 23-1-2009 @ 07:12 AM by ll__raine__ll
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is there any point if you're going to be so defensive and rude?

i wasn't saying the mother is innocent. it doesn't sound very good for her ... that's for sure.

on the other hand i've seen someone tried and hung by the media (we are the media here too) and as it turned out we were fed a bunch of bs and totally manipulated.

it happens.


reply posted on 23-1-2009 @ 07:26 AM by Valhall
I agree with you on that raine. I believe the media has for a long time forgotten their place on many issues. Whether just a mere citizen's trial, or a high-level politician's quandry. The media makes news now, they don't report it. And through this case, they have continued to do that.

I'm not the media though. I'm a citizen, who is addicted to this case and just as when OJ was found innocent, I'll be sitting here accepting the call of 12 jurors when it is all said and done. And just as with OJ, once the trial occurs, and all the evidence has been presented, I will still formulate my own opinion as to her guilt or innocence, and it may not agree with the jury's call.

I've been very careful to make sure that I'm clear that I'm only voicing my personal opinion as to whether she killed Caylee...and I've also made sure to give evidence of why my opinion is that.

As I stated, I'm working on a compendium of all evidence presented to date, and collecting that information in a timeline. I will put that information in a separate thread that will be for the purpose of following the evidence (both defense and prosecution - although the defense has not shared yet any of its evidence...but when they do I will include it) unconnected to any theories I have about the case.

I'm not defensive if you disagree with me, but to continue to beat the horse that you don't agree with me discussing my opinion on this case doesn't really add any information on the subject - i.e. evidence to point one way or the other about the case. I have noted your objection to me discussing my opinion. I have tried to be cordial about it, but if you continue to just come back and state that over and over, I'm not sure what constructive things I can respond with. You have the right to think I'm wrong, just like I have the right to think Casey is guilty. That's about all I can give on that.

[edit on 1-23-2009 by Valhall]



reply posted on 23-1-2009 @ 08:14 AM by Mynaeris
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I for one am intrigued by all the work you have been doing. Congratulations - I have also been spending months reading every item on this case - this and the Natalee Holloway case. They have similarities in as much as both "potentially" guilty parties have shown true psychopathology and have parents who are standing behind them no matter how many times they lie and act in sociopathic ways, the parents still insist they are victims of the media and public in general.

I can hardly wait to read your final analysis. You go Girl


reply posted on 23-1-2009 @ 08:55 AM by aleon1018
Originally posted by Valhall
George Anthony disappeared Thursday morning and they found him last night in a motel in Daytona. He had become suicidal. They have him in protective custody to perform a psych evaluation.

I feel bad for this guy...what a nightmare to have to live through.

www.wftv.com...#-

[edit on 1-23-2009 by Valhall]


It will be interesting to hear the details on this "alleged" suicide attempt. For all we know, this was a meeting he had with the FBI or 'someone'. If Cayce has been part of child pornography or child sexual abuse, we may have heard more evidence by now. But the fact that Caylee was skeletonized may have squashed part of that. First Cayce was asking for immunity, then George and Cindy? This may include many more people than we realize. (Disney World?) But if there were any threats against these people's lives, I think they would have come forward even sooner. Maybe they all have had their script to follow.

George may actually be suicidal as if feeling responsible as the head of the family and his previous knowledge in this field and instincts were ignored. But if he had NOT actually known where either Cayce or Caylee were, he would have more likely done his job as a homicide detective by instinct. As a detective, I would think he would have already known many things about his daughter's habits. Having her date police officers seems to be some attempt to minimize exposure and in some way control her. Cayce should have also been committed if all of this is true.

One way or another, this whole thing seems to come back to George and his duties as a husband, father, grandfather, and law enforcement. But the suggested history by many in this field of : "We protect our own" seems very strong here. I would hope that this isn't the worst case scenario, but Cayce may have originally been a victim all along and feared for her life in a world where those who are supposed to protect you do not and cannot.

If Cayce has been a life long victim of child sexual abuse, I would think that there's 'physical evidence' with her as well.

This web still seems much bigger than it should have been.

[edit on 23-1-2009 by aleon1018]


reply posted on 23-1-2009 @ 04:07 PM by Valhall
Originally posted by aleon1018
Originally posted by Valhall
George Anthony disappeared Thursday morning and they found him last night in a motel in Daytona. He had become suicidal. They have him in protective custody to perform a psych evaluation.

I feel bad for this guy...what a nightmare to have to live through.

www.wftv.com...#-

[edit on 1-23-2009 by Valhall]


It will be interesting to hear the details on this "alleged" suicide attempt. For all we know, this was a meeting he had with the FBI or 'someone'. If Cayce has been part of child pornography or child sexual abuse, we may have heard more evidence by now. But the fact that Caylee was skeletonized may have squashed part of that. First Cayce was asking for immunity, then George and Cindy? This may include many more people than we realize. (Disney World?) But if there were any threats against these people's lives, I think they would have come forward even sooner. Maybe they all have had their script to follow.


George wrote an 8 page suicide letter. In it he states he is proud of how strong Casey has been and that he does not believe she hurt Caylee. They have hospitalized him now.


reply posted on 25-1-2009 @ 09:48 PM by prometheus1111
These child sacrafice things always get weirded out. I'm surprised many are so addicted to Nancy Grace going on day in and day out ad nauseum about this case. Like it was some kinda who done it soap opera. They play on your psychic emotions folks. The more you watch and pay attention to it..the stronger they become and the weaker and more blind you become..Just a friggin fact.

Makes me sick

Heres the deal.

They never did closure on Jon Benet nor did they ever close the Natalie Holloway thing entirely.

You have 2 parents hooking up romantically from these cases. The dad of Jon Benet hooking up with the mom of Natalie Holloway. Come on people Yet people just look the other way as if its normal or coincidental.

Awhile back they said Vandersloot was into underground sex industry as is many power elites in what I like to call Dutcheaism. The friggin black pope Hans Van Kolvenbach the Jesuit General is Dutch for christs sake but then again so are the Van Halens right? Sorry..I'm digressing.


What you all need to realize is yes there are conspiracies and they are more horrifying than you can possibly imagine. Occult sacrafices...killing children...and in a real way harnessing alot of energy and power from the sacrafices is indeed taking place.

Oh well...maybe most of you thinking i sound schizophrenic saves me each night from being hauled away and disappeared. So be my guest...think what you want. I'm simply telling you what is, not my opinion.
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