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posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 04:14 AM
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GREENFIELD, Calif. (AP) -- Police have arrested a Greenfield man for allegedly arranging to sell his 14-year-old daughter into marriage in exchange for $16,000, 100 cases of beer and several cases of meat.

Police said they only learned of the deal after the 36-year-old man went to them to get his daughter back because payment wasn't made as promised. The man was arrested Sunday on suspicion of human trafficking.

Officers also arrested an 18-year-old man on suspicion of statutory rape. Investigators believe the girl went willingly with the man, but she's under California's legal age of consent and can't legally marry.

Police say arranged marriages involving underage girls have become a problem in this small Central Coast farming community.
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posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 04:14 AM
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California , What is going on . I hope this guy goes to jail for the rest of his life , Good thing he didn't smoke crack he would have sold his whole family ,

It has been a traditional way of marrying people in India and in many other countries. Of course, it is not acceptable for our modern Western values. But it is sometimes very difficult to challenge traditions. It is highly Illegal in the USA

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posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 04:21 AM
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so whats the big deal if the girl went willingly with the man




Of course, it is not acceptable for our modern Western values


western values???


is this a joke ? west has no moral values and is decadent and useless...
indian civilisation has far more value system than your stupid american culture


It is highly Illegal in the USA

iraq war was illegal too .....

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[edit on 13-1-2009 by sadchild01]



posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 04:28 AM
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The U.S. has no moral values? We don't punish women for getting raped. We don't allow marriage of 8 year old girls to adult men. You should cut back on your visits to the opium den.



posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 04:32 AM
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Originally posted by poet1b
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The U.S. has no moral values? We don't punish women for getting raped. We don't allow marriage of 8 year old girls to adult men. You should cut back on your visits to the opium den.






We don't punish women for getting raped.





well, they have to prove that they were raped ... by the way USA has the maximum number of rapes on this planet




We don't allow marriage of 8 year old girls to adult men.

but you permit pornography





You should cut back on your visits to the opium den.


you are having too much coc aine



posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 04:44 AM
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Originally posted by sadchild01

well, they have to prove that they were raped ... by the way USA has the maximum number of rapes on this planet


...and your source is?


Originally posted by sadchild01
but you permit pornography


What happens between consenting adults is incredibly different to what an adult does to a child.


Originally posted by sadchild01
you are having too much coc aine


Zing!



posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 04:47 AM
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A quick look at the map shows that Greenfield, CA is no coastal town. It is over a hundred miles from the coast, on the western side of the San Joaquin Valley, a small farming community. No indication of what race the father and daughter are. Considering part of the payment was beer, and the guy marrying the daughter is 18, could be any race, most likely a white guy. Sixteen should be able to marry an eighteen year old. There is only two years difference.



posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 04:51 AM
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Holy crap, what that's a feat of epic proportions. I know, it's not a good thing he did and he should be ashamed, but gosh, you have to admire the deal. 100 cases of beer?

Well, wouldn't that make us tin foil hat wearing people all jolly?

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posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 05:00 AM
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Thanks for posting the location...I couldn't find it on google maps...man I gotta move there. I got some crap that I've been trying to sell for years...maybe I can involved in that free market enterprise.

That guy is an entrepreneur!



posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 05:05 AM
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..and your source is?

check official UN statistics :
United States of America


-number of rapes- 90,863


95,136
en.wikipedia.org...
www.unodc.org...

this is official figures , which many consider untrustworthy ..here are the real figures that show the rape culture of USA


PREVALENCE:
1 our of 4 women will be sexually assaulted in her lifetime. (1)

In the U.S., it is estimated that a woman is raped every eighty seconds. (2)

One out of twelve male students surveyed had committed acts that met the legal definition of rape or attempted rape. (1)

Between 1995 and 1996, more than 670,000 women were the victim of rape, (3)
www-rohan.sdsu.edu...





What happens between consenting adults is incredibly different to what an adult does to a child.

typical western propaganda , at sometime 14-16 years of age was legal for marriage ,

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posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 06:00 AM
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as a woman - I dont think any culture east or west has got it right



posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 06:22 AM
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yenko13:
It is highly Illegal in the USA


Not entirely accurate. 14 is legal in several states with parental approval. Alabama and New Hampshire, for example. A few others.



poet1b
Sixteen should be able to marry an eighteen year old. There is only two years difference.


Sixteen would be legal in most states. But the article states she was 14, which isn't legal in quite as many.



The Last Man on Earth
What happens between consenting adults is incredibly different to what an adult does to a child.
sadchild01
typical western propaganda , at sometime 14-16 years of age was legal for marriage


...if there is a failing here...it's not one of morality. It's a failure to understand that "legality" and "morality" are different things, and that things like marriage age and how old one must be to be legally considered an "adult" are completely arbitrary and cultural and have nothing to do with morality. Yes, many americans would jump on their neighbors and accuse them of being immoral fiends for trying to marry a 14 year old girl...completely oblivious to the fact that it's completely legal and accepted in several states, and much of the rest of the world.

To put this whole thing into perspective...if the people involved had simply hopped into a car and spent a few hours driving, it would not have been illegal.



posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 07:11 AM
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Sadchild, you need to learn how to read charts. The UN link shows the U.S. rape rate to be third in the world. Sure, SA looks good on reports, because they punish the victims not the rapists.

European rape rates are on the drive, and immigration is driving that, as has been well documented.

All this does is show that the U.S. does a lot better job of documenting rape rates.

S Africa has the highest reported rates, but if the real numbers were out, the numbers would be far different.

Heck, in the ME they sell 8 year old girls into sexual slavery, and kidnap them from other countries.



posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 07:14 AM
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Whether or not it was acceptable by their culture, they still must follow the laws of the USA when they decide to live here. This applys even if our laws and system of law are imperfect. The same would be expected of an American citizen that decided to live in another country. I found this to clear up the cultural/race question:




Grebmeier said arranged marriages are part of the custom in many countries, including parts of Mexico. All of the people involved in the case are Mexican immigrants from Oaxaca, in southern Mexico, many of whom have settled in Greenfield.


Houston Chronicle



posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 07:36 AM
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Selling a kid for 16K and some beer doesnt sound like an arranged marriage. It sounds more like selling human beings for profit.

A typical arranged marriage, unless I'm mistaken, involves two families getting their kids together for whatever reason be it traditional ties, social status elevation, financial gain fpr the both families. Not a drunk selling his little girl to some pervert for a case of Pabst.

These people might have a leg up when the SHTF though. Not much will be more valuable than little girls. Maybe bullets, maybe clean water, maybe medicine but the ugly side of humanity with no legal hurdles to jump means sexual slavery will be a profitable business.

It'll be as pervasive as puppy mills only infinitely more horrifying. And those who cant create their own, or have the slightest bit of decency keeping them from selling their own will come for yours.



posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 10:06 AM
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Arranged marriages are just that , It happens all over the world , Selling your daughter for some Beer is a first I ever heard in the states, I heard of Sluts getting traded around but this is a new low



posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 10:30 AM
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A few comments i want to make.

young people are impressionable. So did she go willing or was she really lead to believe she had no other choice.

In regards to rape, in some states the woman can say "no" up until the point of orgasm and it would be still considered rape. so good luck out there guys (and girls).

When the SHTF i agree that those people will either have a leg to stand on OR will be one of the first to go. I myself having 2 kids hope all parents do not have to deal with this type of situation.



posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 10:38 AM
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What kind of beer? (Someone had to say it)



posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by Resinveins
What kind of beer? (Someone had to say it)


If it was light beer , may he will get a light sentence'

If it was A good beer maybe they can make a commercial



posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 11:12 AM
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Sadchild, you type like Ivan Drago.

To the OP, I guess this is the modern dowry for child brides now? Instead of gold, wine, and half your herd of goats a man is expected to pony up beer, Benjamins, and already processed meats. As the father of a little girl, let me say I hope the guy is someone's bride while in jail. I'd kill any man who even looked at my daughter if she was 14, let alone tried to purchase her.



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