Before you watch more porn, you need to know this

There are some of us out here that couldn't get laid if it meant the survival of the entire human race, so porno is a good outlet for me. I dont really feel like goin out and taking a woman against her will. I will continue to watch porn until I get the real thing..if that will ever happen.

When a woman does find me to be attractive she is usually real old, real fat, or real ugly...Many say its what is inside that counts, but I'm here to tell you its not the womans personality thats gonna make me erect and stay that way..its her looks. She doesn't have to be a super hot woman but I'd prefer her not to be fat, old, and ugly either.

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I always laugh when people get worried about the scars of strippers. I stripped when I learned I could make $600-$2200 (average night was about $700 and $2248 was my best) a night. I went to work after my girls went to bed and was home when they woke up. We had a lot of fun those two years and they hated when I went back to a 9-5er. I met my husband (a doctor) about 6 months before I quit dancing. He never had a problem with the stripping but strangely enough, he doesn't like me working 9-5 anymore so now I spend my day at the country club. Alas, I think my cruddy golf game is what's really going to scar me. ;o)

Kidney Thief "if you saw a goat with a fake Abe Lincoln beard, a hillbilly with two erections and a lumpish cycloptic woman in a carrot suit i urge you to consider that this is not indicative of all porn."

Hilarious

That's all I have to add to this thread aside from this: your average porn star is obviously not concerned with being abused or belittled. This does not mean that the responsibility for their lack of concern or inability to comprehend their own abuse should lie with them. Society is a twisted beast.

Has anyone forced you to watch porn, or offered it up to as a reasonable substitute for sex with another human being? Probably not. The issue really lies in MANUFACTURED taboos: nudity, sexuality, etc. Does that say anything about us as humans? I think it does. We're covered by clothes most of time, so whenever we expose ourselves for what we really are, its exciting. I would say that its not a result of biology as much as it is a function of human perception. If we all walked around naked and had sex in public, watching porn would be like watching paint dry. Blame organized religion for the taboos or blame the first caveman to use animal skin to cover his junk, or chalk it up to a result of evolution.

porn is the extreme enterainment end of "dumbing down the masses" - "they" want to keep us at an animal level, not evolve to be more human - growing away from the groin and closer to the brain.

Try telling this to the producers and the whole industry. Then the billions of people.

Personally, I think that rape, as a form of assault, should be downgraded from the degree of severity with which it is viewed.




WHOA! a rapist are we? I think any person convicted of rape should likewise be raped by a big black man named bubba to show them how it feels. Rape is a very damn serious thing and I think it is simply ridiculous to ask for it to be downgraded. Should we downgrade torture and child molesting too? I don't think so, we need to keep our boundaries and not let that kind of crap happen. Sex is a personal choice and usually a very special thing especially to the woman involved. Ever talked to a rape victim? I didn't think so....

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This thread is completely ridiculous, beyond all belief!

Am I supposed to feel sad for an adult who, instead of getting an education to become 'somebody', decided to get pounded in the *** to make a living? Are you kidding me?!! There are at least a billion other women out there making an honest and honorable living, so why can't they do the same? Why should we have to worry for them when they don't care for themselves?

Ohh "the poor girls" yeah sure i blame em *laughing out loud

You have to see an interview of a female pornstar one day.These girls, most of them, they're crazier than what you think, rest assured of that.

The thing about pornstars is that there is a good portion of them that think it's a step to become famous.I guess you can't have a brain & being a beauty, can you?.
If they don't like what they do anymore they can quit it's a fee world afterall.
You wanna bailout the deluded pornstars and redo the world? Go for it.

The reality is girls are crazy. It's only when they're get married that they somehow get back to reality.

I'm talking about the girls in general because you have to see the amateur ones that don't earn a buck for what they do, just for their own pleasure.It's all about amateurism these days you know and yes they're crazy...to put it in good terms.

Ah the girls...

I have friends who make porn. Few years back I used to date a pornstar. I've never been involved in the adult industry myself though.

There is nothing wrong with porn. What porn shows is part of human behaviour. No different from eating, sleeping, fighting or playing ice hockey.

What there is a problem is the way some people make porn. What I've been told many producers are douches. Some are not and some are really nice. It's a business, there are different kind of people doing business and it sucks if you have to work for a complete a-hole.

What makes me a bit peeved is the fact that people will go on about how porn abuses women and how it must be horrible like they really cared. While at the same time they don't give a rat about the girl working night shifts at a fast food restaurant who has an evil idiot as a boss. It's only the moral panic about sex makes them "care".

But believe me, for the people who do porn it doesn't really matter if they're being mistreated shooting a gangbang or if they are being mistreated cleaning an office - it doesn't feel good, but the gangbang gig propably pays a lot better.

Yes, many people in the adult industry drink too much or do drugs. That's because the industry draws in people who are desperate to get money to drink and do drugs. And that's because a) many people don't want to do sex work and b) there's a stigma involved so many people wont dare to do sex work and those drive up the pay. So it's basicly a job that doesn't require special skill but pays good money. That also explains why there are many douchebag employers in the industry.

Nobody starts using drugs so that they could do porn, if that's the only way to stand it then it would be easier just to not do it. If you don't quit a job you can't handle then you obiously have some other problems that won't go away with removing the "sex for money" part.

The bottom line is: Sex workers need to be treated as people - and all people have the right to good working conditions. Nobody should have to do a job that will break them down. And to say that nobody shoul have to sell sex is hypocrasy. Even if you'd hate it it's not the worst thing to do for many.

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Yes yes yes, if daddy didn't get that twinkle in his eyes when he saw mama where would not be six billion people on the planet.

Probably there would not be single one left at this point.

It is all biological, you know. We are wired that way. At least the men are. We gotta reproduce. Then we need to get our little brother into the mood.

And in a sense it is better to drain yourself surfing the Internet and watching videos rather than make the world population go up into something like 100 billion.

So this is actually very good for the planet and humanity. At least until we get extra planets to support all of that extra population.

And yes, our ancestors pretty much were doing the things they are doing in those movies. They had an imagination too. Or maybe the ancient astronauts taught them their wicked ways? Or was it the Illuminati who invented this? No, wait it was the Freemasons! An all-boy club wearing aprons cannot be very straight, can it?

And it is quite obvious many of those people actually like their job. At least the men would probably have trouble performing if they didn't.

Certainly there is a lot of abuse in that business. But isn't there in every business? Think about the stars of the meat industry.

I would rather be worried about the Military-Industrial Complex than pornography.

But they have to keep their bodies tight?

That should be about as hard as learning a special skill would be...

At least I have learned many special skills and still I'm a fat man.

My only response to this is....there are "Sex Therapists" for a reason

One of my best friends, her father is a Sex Therapist. He makes lots of money too.

Oh BTW, the very old "The Joy of Sex" book, has finally updated and a new version is coming out soon. The book has always been a top seller.



Mods, if the above link is to risque for ATS, feel free to edit. Not sure if it is or not



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Dang! I think it IS a conspiracy! To lead men astray through loss of ching brought about through tantalizing yet unfulfilling sex act substitution.

As opposed to sex manuals(or DVD's,etc),sometimes most explicit in nature,which,at least in my voluminous collection,emphasize control and awareness,not fantasy fueled orgasmic loss of energy.I read about sex and look at pictures and movies to observe technique and that is why I dislike most modern porn,too much same same.The local store where the ladies go during the lunch hour(why buy sex toys in a group anyway?Whassup with that?)has lots of feminist approved stuff,some might call porn.'No actual pain nor coersion was involved with the making of this..."Just kidding,here.Sold as instructional some is some not so much.

Even so called sacred self pleasuring involves appreciating your body and how you are,right now,doing 'it'.A form of meditation,actually,not easy to prevent loss of the present moment of awareness in fantasy.

Anyway,thinking about this thread got me to having to post.

Like anything porn can be good or bad. Porn dehumanizes women and men to contribute to a fantasy focused around sex, hence treating people like objects. This is healthy within a fantasist realm, there’s no reason to get to know the personality of your fantasy partner, and the purpose they serve for you is purely a sexual one. I see no problem with this, everyone has fantasies, fantasying can be quite healthy and helps release sexual tension. However this poses a problem when people regard actual humans they interact with as nothing more than objects, but this is not porn’s fault, plenty of people who don’t watch porn treat people like objects. It depends on the person, obviously something screwed them up, but I doubt the porn industry is to blame, even if the industry contributes to their mentality.

I do agree that porn objectifies both men and women, but hey, the Disney Corporation objectifies children and teens to make a prophet, swallowing them whole, dolling them up and putting grueling pressure on them before basically spitting them out when they aren’t appealing to tweens anymore.

Hollywood in general is structured around objectifying young people. The porn industry isn’t any worse than any other form of media that takes advantage of human beings.

And porn is certainly not the only industry that exploits young people through marketing their bodies. Prostitution and stripper agencies do this as much as porn.

What do they all have in common? In most situations the people involved have a choice. Yes having that kind of career may break a person and indulging in too much of the fantasy created by these industries may hurt the consumer’s mentality, but everyone has a choice. If the person isn’t forced into making the product and the consumer isn’t forced into buying it then I don’t see any victims (long as the product is legal and the purchase of it is legal). People may have been victimized sure, but because of their own decisions, which are not to be blamed on the porn industry as a whole.


All right, that’s the end of my rant…

I just spent the last two hours at a porn site. It was some kind of porn directory with links to other sites.

The lower quality sites, did reveal that the performers seemed a bit distracted, as if they would rather be somewhere else.

But the quality sites with high resolution video, costumes for the actors and attractive sets...I don't see your point. Those people are either excellent actors, something I have never thought about porn actors/actresses, or they are having a great time.

What you are saying could be said about any industry. Professional athletes retire as men with broken bodies and very little education to fall back on after their careers end.

Military personel, some have great careers. Some get arms and legs blown off. Some much, much worse.

Bankers and Industrialists stepping in front of speeding locomotives, Politicians getting ripped a apart in the Media. It goes on and on. Don't let me get started on migrant workers and farm labor.

Picking on porn is arbitrary. Sexual slavery is awful, children falling into this world, horrific. But trying to sabotage the Porn industry is just plain rude.

In order to be considered a responsible citizen, I promise to only view high quality pornography with seasoned, successful and well known professionals actors.

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For the men and women of the porn industry, it's a job.
If they were so abused and scared as for this to be a heart breaking story, they would quit.
Don't try to spill that bleeding heart, "They have no other option" crap.

It's a job. If it was so horrible, they would quit.

Now sex slaves, human trafficking- That's something to be sick over.

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Placing someone on the pedestal known as porn is hardly demeaning. I totally agree with those who point out that porn is really just another job. Some people enjoy it and others don't. Yet in the vast majority of cases the person does it again because they don't regret it at all. Your whole concept is that all porn needs to go because some porn is harmful. How about just getting rid of the porn which has involuntary actors and job sites where they are treated in a demeaning way, and keeping the porn which places women on a high pedestal and gives them all the respect they deserve.

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Agreed and mostly agreed with the OP

But you have it spot on, Porn doesn't help. escape doesn't help... The loss of Energy detailed in Tantra for men is REAL.

You will simply and truely do much better to NOT relieve yourself, the science of Masturbation and prostate cancer and all that is utter bunk...

Your brain actually registers vivid fantasies as real on a subconscious level, your making it harder to be aroused, dampening your desire to meet women, focusing on an illusion...

Porn, is indeed bad for the human mind and sexuality in the long run...

You would all do much better with women to pursue them in RT as opposed to watch porn, even as you FAIL epically at first your desire, your pheromones, your energy will increase and it will make you more desirable... heck just going out for a walk when you get the urge mandates meeting new people

If you study any kind of true sex science like Tantra... you will know and learn in practice that... masturbation and porn are a zero on every level

Sorry but Tantra represents 3500 years of Ethnographic research on human Sexuality

Modern Psychology Represents 40 years since it's okay to touch yourself lol

One has better advice in regards to porn and masturbation than they other