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reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 10:38 AM by noonebutme
reply to post by Goathief

And a worthy $0.02 it is! Good post!

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reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 04:34 PM by Exv8densez
reply to post by Goathief

AH Ha! See I totally think the contrary.

The NOW can’t and will never regulate natural intimate sex. However, porn is an artificial representation that can be targeted. People may be doing "unholy" sexual things behind closed doors, but when you star putting it out in the open and materializing it, this is where the controllers can put their hands on it. The lust for porn on the Internet is so rampant that there starting to be complaints about it. A girl can not even post a vlog on Youtube without a bunch of porn seekers nagging her. Its funny how the more informative conspiracy videos will only have hundreds or thousands of views while a young girl stripping will hit the millions. The sheeple reflecting their own “sheepleness” is what’s going to fail them in the end.
Jus wait and see. Mark my words.





reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 05:39 PM by Goathief
reply to post by Exv8densez


Riiiight, because the establishment is pro-porn and every porn director is a member of the illuminati/NWO who put subliminal messages into their productions? Fact is, regardless of programming and de-programming people still love sex (it's one of our most basic instincts) - sex and suggestions of are used in advertising and the like but the act itself (and pornography) can not really push a political agenda.

Porn directors are often brought up on the most ridiculous of charges to try to stop the spread/rot (read, collapse of their programming), sex is such a good, liberating and powerful de-programming tool as most of the great pioneers of the movement agree: Leary, Anton-Wilson, Crowley... you name it.

I can see the programming that's been forced into you from your opening sentences:


The NOW can’t and will never regulate natural intimate sex.


... why does sex automatically have to be that way? Why can't it be animalistic, rough, with multiple partners, with none, cold and quick, whatever - why do you think the ideal is to love one single person intimately and that's it? It's the social norm, and in being so is inherently NWO programming as I've explained before. Maybe we are supposed to love everyone intimately?

I suggest you re-read my last post on the subject and take a minute to really meditate on what I'm saying. In your argument you did not really give an example of how the NWO is using pornography besides stalking/predatory perverts - that is in fact a suggestion of repressed sexuality by the system, not a free and liberated individual.

Open your mind.


reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 08:08 PM by resistor
As usual, it’s all about moderation IMO. A little porn can be a good thing for a relationship, or a single guy, but there are dangers. Guys in particular have to be careful about being disappointed that they can’t get a girl like the unrealistically hot ones they see in porn (it’s that visual orientation thing), or that they can’t get their girl to do what the porn girls do. You young guy’s also need to beware of chronic masturbation and de-sensitizing yourselves, particularly if you’re cut. There’s a reason they used to call it self abuse.

Abusive conditions for the women involved are a consideration for me, though I think it’s probably less pervasive now than when porn was much more illegal and less accepted. Obviously snuff films and underage porn is always abusive and is absolutely unacceptable, but that is where things can end up when you completely subjectify people. Always remember that they’re people and not just your spooge receptacle.

Personally I haven’t done porn for almost a decade and I don’t miss it a bit. I liken it to when I cut all sugar out of my diet and within a month found that I didn’t miss it a bit, and that I actually could taste the flavor of my oatmeal, tea, etc. Like food or drugs or other things, sex can be addictive, and we should guard against always upping the intensity in an attempt to outdo a past experience. Take a fast and you’ll be amazed how much better food tastes. Works for everything else too.

Having re-read that it sounds awfully preachy. Oh well.



reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 08:25 PM by Exv8densez
reply to post by Goathief

See what I’m talking about, it’s the exact knee-jerk reaction I expected. You completely miss the point and went with the convenient fake rebellious attitude of the mass. Only religious fanatics can find the flaws in the porn industry I’m sure.

what the hell do you think? It will start with the convenient tracking of sex offenders. Of course nobody has a problem with locking down pedos and their kiddy porn, something the Industry should’ve fathomed. The problem is that you assume all the innocent people are doing nothing wrong and the evil Illuminati is only out the get them. They will get to the sheeple by those among the sheeple who will try to create chaos.

I’m surprised you can only say that the NOW is not Pro-pron instead of Pro-sex, REAL sex., whatever it is. Since when only PORN really represent sex?Are you kidding me? Why is there never any fat porn actors? Why not try to make animal porn mainstream also? Lets see how that goes. It's like all those who pretend they're opened to nudity but only if it's an attractive body. God forbid we ever see Rosie O'donnell naked uh? What about having sex with women who don't shave and proudly show it?



... why does sex automatically have to be that way? Why can't it be animalistic, rough, with multiple partners, with none, cold and quick, whatever - why do you think the ideal is to love one single person intimately and that's it? It's the social norm, and in being so is inherently NWO programming as I've explained before. Maybe we are supposed to love everyone intimately?

Sex is already part animalistic duh! Wow think you for that revelation! But it doesn’t have to be broadcast and cheapen down. Of course the NOW will never get us by our primal instinct just like scientists tagged animals in the jungle , sure. Like they can never benefit from using the industry as a distraction while the masses are being dumbed down unaware of their agendas @@:

I suggest you re-read my last post on the subject and take a minute to really meditate on what I'm saying. In your argument you did not really give an example of how the NWO is using pornography besides stalking/predatory perverts - that is in fact a suggestion of repressed sexuality by the system, not a free and liberated individual. Open your mind.

And then what? You’re gonna ask me to open my *ss so you can feel how tight it is? Go ahead and try to label me as a religious prude while I don’t even believe in God, which shows that your fake liberalism had already cloud your mind with preconceive judgments. Everybody is sexual and different. Not because you think you’re doing it a la “animal” doesn’t mean you’re more liberated.

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reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 08:25 PM by meadowfairy
Originally posted by Goathief
I actually think pornography is very anti-NWO. The nuclear family model is a tool of repression, limiting freedoms and ideas - it's basically a damn good means of control. If something is seen as 'ungodly', 'family destroying', 'corrupting' from their ideal model of sheeple (obey and consume, do not question) then surely that's a good thing?

The Porn industry is one of the most heavily regulated on the market, with new laws being passed monthly to try and stem the flow... our sexual freedoms are one of the few things which are truly ours and cannot be touched by 'them' as much as they try. The thought police are here, "You can't enjoy having someone spank your behind, you are sick and need to be educated" (read reprogrammed)... I am not suggesting that anyone who doesn't like sex like this is wrong - far from it - but can't you see how you are doing the NWO's work for them?

For the people who believe in soulmates bonding for life - have you ever considered that it's possible to have more than one? People of the global conciousness persuasion often suggest that's the case (we are all brothers and sisters) but never really consider a sexual side to it either, maybe it's time we did?

My $0.02 for now.

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Like i said we have many soul mates but only one twin flame the other half of our soul(your soul twin). You wife or husband or bf and gf might only be your soul mate. But your twin flame is actually your other self. Now you can understand why sex is so good with them.

Do i say to stop watching porn no. Im placid with that. But ive moved beyond watching porn to actually having all the needs met.


reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 08:34 PM by NatureBoy
reply to post by Exv8densez



Why is there never any fat porn actors?


oh gosh the links i could send you, there are plenty of fat porn starts and thin ones, girls, boys, girlboys and boygirls of all shapes and sizes doing porn.

why shouldn't we be connected with the side of us that is lust, why shouldn't we understand it and use it?

it's true the only reason most people think two people should mate for life is because thats how its 'supposed' to be done, some nutjob decided it once and now thats it forever, crazy.


reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 08:35 PM by meadowfairy
Originally posted by Exv8densez
reply to post by Goathief

See what I’m talking about, it’s the exact knee-jerk reaction I expected. You completely miss the point and went with the convenient fake rebellious attitude of the mass. Only religious fanatics can find the flaws in the porn industry I’m sure.

what the hell do you think? It will start with the convenient tracking of sex offenders. Of course nobody has a problem with locking down pedos and their kiddy porn, something the Industry should’ve fathomed. The problem is that you assume all the innocent people are doing nothing wrong and the evil Illuminati is only out the get them. They will get to the sheeple by those among the sheeple who will try to create chaos.

I’m surprised you can only say that the NOW is not Pro-pron instead of Pro-sex, REAL sex., whatever it is. Since when only PORN really represent sex?Are you kidding me? Why is there never any fat porn actors? Why not try to make animal porn mainstream also? Lets see how that goes. It's like all those who pretend they're opened to nudity but only if it's an attractive body. God forbid we ever see Rosie O'donnell naked uh? What about having sex with women who don't shave and proudly show it?



... why does sex automatically have to be that way? Why can't it be animalistic, rough, with multiple partners, with none, cold and quick, whatever - why do you think the ideal is to love one single person intimately and that's it? It's the social norm, and in being so is inherently NWO programming as I've explained before. Maybe we are supposed to love everyone intimately?

Sex is already part animalistic duh! Wow think you for that revelation! But it doesn’t have to be broadcast and cheapen down. Of course the NOW will never get us by our primal instinct just like scientists tagged animals in the jungle , sure. Like they can never benefit from using the industry as a distraction while the masses are being dumbed down unaware of their agendas @@:

I suggest you re-read my last post on the subject and take a minute to really meditate on what I'm saying. In your argument you did not really give an example of how the NWO is using pornography besides stalking/predatory perverts - that is in fact a suggestion of repressed sexuality by the system, not a free and liberated individual. Open your mind.

And then what? You’re gonna ask me to open my *ss so you can feel how tight it is? Go ahead and try to label me as a religious prude while I don’t even believe in God, which shows that your fake liberalism had already cloud your mind with preconceive judgments. Everybody is sexual and different. Not because you think you’re doing it a la “animal” doesn’t mean you’re more liberated.

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I second that. Where would we be if the world thought universal love never existed.
There are many animals who only have one partner. But if we wanted to be animalistic we should have not developed our brains. Imagine if every disgusting men animalistically tried to have sex with me. I would want to hope killing was legal then no offence.

Not only that media drilled the need for perfection and beauty into people's minds to seek the outward person rather then both inward and outward.

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reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 08:39 PM by NatureBoy
reply to post by meadowfairy


what if my 'other half' was kiled in a car crash as a child? does that mean i will never have meaningful sex in my life?


reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 08:40 PM by meadowfairy
Originally posted by NatureBoy
reply to post by Exv8densez



Why is there never any fat porn actors?


oh gosh the links i could send you, there are plenty of fat porn starts and thin ones, girls, boys, girlboys and boygirls of all shapes and sizes doing porn.

why shouldn't we be connected with the side of us that is lust, why shouldn't we understand it and use it?

it's true the only reason most people think two people should mate for life is because thats how its 'supposed' to be done, some nutjob decided it once and now thats it forever, crazy.



Ok if you had a obese wife its because you love her right and you would do anything still out of love.
But if these people are havving random sex with others they probably wouldnt want to love in real life then it was for money.


reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 08:42 PM by meadowfairy
Originally posted by NatureBoy
reply to post by meadowfairy


what if my 'other half' was kiled in a car crash as a child? does that mean i will never have meaningful sex in my life?



Who said sex wasn't meaningful with a soul mate. You fill the void in other ways. You can also ask for your soul mate to become your twin flame for the void to be connected and you feel universal love.

The love im talking about isn't the love you hear on romantic movies. There is no words to describe this love.

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reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 08:54 PM by NatureBoy
reply to post by meadowfairy


ok so i could turn a normal person into my other flame? how would that work? what if my other half was alive in china but i didn't know could i still turn someone else into this other half? then i would have 3halves -very confusing.

what makes this love better than other love?

how about 'fear of flying' that suggests the best sex might be between strangers? what if this is only level 2 sex and infact the best sex involves domination and humiliation at the hands of a biker gang?


reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 08:56 PM by meadowfairy
Originally posted by killacaboose
Though it might make me seem mentaly unstable I find that I'm turned on to the fact the woman is in pain....yep sounding crazy.... so to further degrade whats left of the dignity that passed onto uncle sam when I signed the doted line... It's about seeing sexual perversion that I know I would never do. I personaly would never do such things, but it is exciting to think the man degrading the woman is you while you think yourself off and touch yourself in the ways the bible preaches is wrong. You either belong in the mind centre or the heart centre it is your choice.

Prime canadates to be sexual preditors can fullfill a sick desire by watching this and not act on it, I'll be the first one to say I have increadably sick fantasy's that are fullfilled by watching someone else do it.
I don't suppose I feel sorry for these men or women who participate in the porn. It's consentual. You can not make me perform sexually unless I so choose to ****.

I didn't check the links so I'm assuming there was something you wanted me to see, but I don't have much time and computers in Iraq are slow. My apologies I hope this can contribute to your debate/post


Well its all in your mind is it not. Imagine if your mind was allowed to unlocked from its cage and unleashed into the world. The mind can speak more truth then your mouth can. You know it your heart it would make a mess off things but you stop yourself don't you. That is because you think off your family in the end and you would not want to hurt them and have that happen to them do you not. All these morals start shopwing up and not because the bible told you not too but you can actually make out right form wrong.

As for pain that is every men's fantasy to be well endowed and thats why they like to see that. But because you enjoy it does not necessarily mean a women always does unless she could handle tio and was a nymph. Porn stars do infact alot off the time play it up for the camera because unfortunately they get paid to do it.

Everyone has a sense of taking the porn world to bed and do it at home too. But in their minds they probably trully dont enjoy everything they have to do to please their other half.

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reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 09:00 PM by meadowfairy
Originally posted by NatureBoy
reply to post by meadowfairy


ok so i could turn a normal person into my other flame? how would that work? what if my other half was alive in china but i didn't know could i still turn someone else into this other half? then i would have 3halves -very confusing.

what makes this love better than other love?

how about 'fear of flying' that suggests the best sex might be between strangers? what if this is only level 2 sex and infact the best sex involves domination and humiliation at the hands of a biker gang?


Im not asking you to understand. You need to go within and seek those answers. If i try to explain would be like trying to explain to my puppy how to sit. But anyhow its is my experience and that is what my husband and i discovered and it goes beyond words that could be expressed in human term.

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reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 09:02 PM by Exv8densez
reply to post by meadowfairy

Thanks, but see I don't even believe in that soulmate/marriage crap. The problem I have with the veneration of pornography is that I've realised how it can be an effective cheap tool to lure and alienate the masses even more. Which is why I laugh at those who seem to think that it is the only doorway to liberalism.


I will never forbid porn, its just that I think we should be intellectually honest about it. That's it.


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reply posted on 15-1-2009 @ 09:12 PM by meadowfairy
Originally posted by Exv8densez
reply to post by meadowfairy

Thanks, but see I don't even believe in that soulmate/marriage crap. The problem I have with the veneration of pornography is that I've realised how it can be an effective cheap tool to lure and alienate the masses even more. Which is why I laugh at those who seem to think that it is the only doorway to libralism.


I will never forbid porn, its just that I think we should be intellectually honest about it. That's it.


You dont have to be married to become one with your partner. It is a contract and a pagan ritual to honestly tell you the truth. Soul mates are many but twin flame not everyone finds so will never know what im talking about. But if you are into spirituality then you know the power off mind and if your partner agrees that she wants to be your twinflame then it can be done so as long as you both know thats it.

Yes when you have wisdom behind knowing why porn and sexualisation sells then you know its all about money and making people not have power over their sexuality.

You know there are some practices in the world where people use their sexual energy not on others but dedicate their mind body and spirit to gain power from it. It is the highest form of power off the body. You either unleash it or can practice how to use it as a tool for yourself. This is another hard thing to explain.

Some people either use their heart, mind or root centre but find it hard to use all three as one can dominate more then the other.



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