Israel Testing Nasty Weapons in Gaza, claims Medic., page 4
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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 02:23 PM by questioningall
Originally posted by MrPenny
Originally posted by questioningall
Here is an example of what type of weapons they are using.


It's an example of the damage all of the world's militaries are capable of wreaking. That flesh isn't shredded in any way different from the flesh of people that has been mutilated for centuries. There is no particular "Israeli-ness" to that kind of carnage.

Expressing outrage at the violent death of a child is fine......failing to express it for all of the world's children that have died horribly, is ignorant.

It is however, a sickening look at an attribute of a culture that displays a mutilated child's corpse for the cameras.

[edit on 13-1-2009 by MrPenny]


This thread is not about "all the worlds children" it is about what is happening in Gaza. But right now I will state - I think it is disgusting for all the atrocities committed in the world and in history to children is terrible!

Now that I have stated it is disgusting for any child to have been hurt - lets go to your other statement:

That alone shows where you stand, so you are now condemning the people of Gaza for the fact that a child was sickeningly burned and killed - which words can not even discribe it fully........and a photographer was there and took a picture.

Oh, so I assume, you think it would be better to just describe what happened, instead of God forbid, show the world what has happened to a child and all the people of Gaza?

Yeah, lets only allow a description of what is happening, lets ban any pictures and if pictures are taken, lets condemn the people who are showing them and allowing them to be taken!


reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 02:23 PM by jam321
reply to post by boaby_phet



palestine never screwed isreal, isreal screwed isreal by trying to rob peoples land from them.


Indians probably feel the same way about Americans stealing their land, but I don't see them launching rockets or blowing themselves up. About the only thing they launch is advertising ads for their casinos.



reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 02:46 PM by BlueRaja
Originally posted by Lazyninja
Yeah cluster bombs.

But I suppose using two (reported) weapons banned by international law isn't too naughty.

Those scampish rogues Israel using illegal weapons again.

Oh and incorrect use of WP isn't like, doing something arcane with the canister, it's just basically using it within x amount of feet from civillians. Basically you cant use them in a city at all, totally illegal. But of course Israel has denied using them even though there is proof of it being used. Just like how America denied using WP in Iraq and then admitted it once pictures of the corpses got into the media.

[edit on 12-1-2009 by Lazyninja]



Can you provide a link where the minimum distance you can utilize WP from civilians, or where it says in the Convention that it's totally illegal in a city? I think if you read a little more closely, you'll see that the actual stipulation is that WP is okay as long as it's not intentionally or directly targetted at civilians(in a City or not).

The US never denied using WP. The US did deny using WP on civilians, or using it in a manner that violated the Convention.

Can you provide a link showing where cluster bombs are illegal? The only stipulation is that the bomblets should have self-destruct/self-deactivation devices on them.

Is Israel a signatory to this Convention? If not, then this is a non-issue in the first place, as they're not bound by the convention. The US only signed off on 2 of the 5 stipulations, which was the minimum for signatory purposes.


reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 02:56 PM by Goathief
reply to post by BlueRaja



Israel did not sign, so you are correct about it being a non-starter. As for the safe distances:
I am withholding information about safe distances as its disclosure would be likely to prejudice the capability, effectiveness or security of our forces.

- John Reid


However, none of that makes it right. Using WP on a densely populated city is just indiscriminate and wrong.


reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 03:58 PM by boaby_phet
reply to post by jam321



how flawed is that argument ? .. your comparing things thats happened for 100's of years, with 2 completly sides, on the other side of the planet, with completly different sets of beliefs... Oh and thats ignoreing the fact that they dont have rockets to fire! .... im fairlyu sure they tried to fight back though,... where did all these cowboy vs indian storys come from ? thin air.

thats like comparing it to the the farmers Vs bunnys from watership down ..!

ive yet to hear a good excuse that does not involve the palestinian people defending themselfs from a tyranous country. that doesnt bring up them trying to free their own country...

let me ask any american this, as you all have the laws in place and many people with the beliefs of taking arms ect..

if canada took over america, and claimed it, and had much bigger armys, super hi tech weapons, and all you had was your millita groups and a few rockets... what would you do do claim your country back ?

[edit on 13-1-2009 by boaby_phet]


reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 04:12 PM by jam321
reply to post by boaby_phet



if canada took over america, and claimed it, and had much bigger armys, super hi tech weapons, and all you had was your millita groups and a few rockets... what would you do do claim your country back ?


Seeing that I have learned from Hamas stupidity, I would not go on a suicide mission. I would buy my time, live under their law, until I was sure that I could accomplish the goal of getting America back.
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