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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 02:30 PM by jam321

reply to post by forklift

Take the bloody picture off, holy crap these israelis are worst than barbarians.

You have no proof Israel committed this act. Maybe it was hamas with one of their homemade explosives.

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 02:38 PM by EarthCitizen07

I think Israel has a questionable right to defend itself but killing 900+ in two weeks with only 13 of their own dead paints a very bad picture and indeed one can argue that they are committing genocide.

Yes hamas started it and should pay a price but there are limits...

You can't kill 100-200 palestinians for every dead israeli and at the same time ask for sympathy because your plea will fall on deaf ears. Nothing positive can be achieved with overkill!

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 02:43 PM by forklift

Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by forklift

Take the bloody picture off, holy crap these israelis are worst than barbarians.

You have no proof Israel committed this act. Maybe it was hamas with one of their homemade explosives.

Since when did hamas start using white phosphorous?

I have done chemistry and i know what white phosphorous does.

I am glad the Arabs have atleast created their own media who are not afraid to show IDF forces behaving like barbarians even if they have to put their own lives at risk.

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 02:44 PM by ukuli

reply to post by masonwatcher

Oh my!

I guess Hitler was really hurt by the global anti-Hitler sentiment too.

And Nazis had to be really hurt by the way their genocide was widely condemned.

You act like a Nazi, you are treated like a Nazi. Genocidal Israel will not get any sympathy from me.

At least my opinion of Israel has gone extremely negative... And seems like this feeling is not limited to me, it is global.

But I guess Israel has to pay the price for the genocide in Gaza.

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 02:50 PM by ukuli

Originally posted by FlyersFan
That's not what I said at all. You people really are grasping at straws and seeing something that isn't there. All I basically said was that we should be careful of the words we use because if the ADL gets ahold of this site it could make difficulties for it.
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This would be a great honor to ATS.

Like Gestapo claiming your site is anti-German.

I don't think an organization like ADL has any credibility after this one. "There was a genocide 60 years ago, now you cannot blame us when we do a bit of a genocide ourselves... Look, we are still the victims of genocide when we are the perpetrators of genocide!"

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 02:55 PM by Rufuz

Originally posted by masonwatcher

Israel's foreign minister expresses Tel Aviv's grave concern over "a wave of anti-Semitism" sparked by the Israeli offensive in Gaza.

In a statement released by her office on Monday, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni expressed "Israel's concern about the current wave of anti-Semitic attacks in various parts of the world."

Israel's 17-day-old offensive in the Gaza Strip has so far claimed the lives of at least 919 Palestinians, while some 4,100 others have been wounded. UN figures show that the majority of casualties and injuries are civilian. The operation has sparked widespread outrage around the globe, with many people and leaders condemning the Israeli acts and urging for an immediate halt in bombardment of the densely-populated strip.

www.presstv.ir...§ionid=351020202

Narcissism and delusional behaviour. When a nation embarks on a war the authorities know they are doing a terrible thing even if they have propagandised the masses with war war. Israel is different, even the leadership is psychopathic.

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They remind me of like beaten brothers who now beat the even smaller. But rest assured that all people get what they deserve in the end.

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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 03:01 PM by masonwatcher

reply to post by EarthCitizen07

I think Israel has a questionable right to defend itself but killing 900+ in two weeks with only 13 of their own dead paints a very bad picture and indeed one can argue that they are committing genocide.

According MSM, of the 13 Israeli killed, 1 was by Hamas and the rest friendly fire.

Current MSM stat is 936 Palestinian dead for 1 Israeli dead.

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 03:05 PM by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by ukuli

Originally posted by FlyersFan
That's not what I said at all. You people really are grasping at straws and seeing something that isn't there. All I basically said was that we should be careful of the words we use because if the ADL gets ahold of this site it could make difficulties for it.
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This would be a great honor to ATS.

Like Gestapo claiming your site is anti-German.

I don't think an organization like ADL has any credibility after this one. "There was a genocide 60 years ago, now you cannot blame us when we do a bit of a genocide ourselves... Look, we are still the victims of genocide when we are the perpetrators of genocide!"

Many races have been unfairly treated in the past such as blacks, native americans, kurds, gypsies, christians, etc but it seems only the jews want revenge.

The question is why? What makes them so special?

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 03:17 PM by flymetothemoon

Originally posted by ukuli

At least my opinion of Israel has gone extremely negative... And seems like this feeling is not limited to me, it is global.

Please ! speak for you're self. I think its safe to say, that using hatred and violence while demonstraiting for the sympathy of Gaza, only makes things worse. Result is that these trouble makers are giving a bad image of the people from Gaza and a better image to the Israelis.

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 03:23 PM by dooper

When you have kill ratios like Israel has, it's really hard to think about global condemnation.

I recall zero global condemnation when Egypt, Syria, and Jordan lined up tens of thousands of men, thousands of tanks, thousands of artillery to wipe Israel off the map in 1967.

But I do recall global condemnation of Israel four days later when they were slaughtering the very folks determined to slaughter them.

I don't personally give a rat's fuzzy @$$ for global opinion.

Traditionally, global opinion has been wrong more than right.

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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 03:26 PM by masonwatcher

Originally posted by flymetothemoon

Originally posted by ukuli

At least my opinion of Israel has gone extremely negative... And seems like this feeling is not limited to me, it is global.

Result is that these trouble makers are giving a bad image of the people from Gaza and a better image to the Israelis.

Better image like this;

Have a look, I dare ya.

There is rumour on the internet that Israeli soldiers are stomping on the heads of Palestinians. I haven't found a credible source. If I do I'll let you know.

Corrected incomplete sentence.

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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 03:36 PM by Alpha_Magnum

Originally posted by ravenshadow13
There is no way to know what that picture really came from. Yes I see what page it's on, but if I had a picture like that from Israel, I'm sure someone would be questioning the origin of the image.

*sigh* Can we just do a survey on here, or put who we support in our profiles, and then this can be over with?

We're not learning anything new, it's the same posts and same threads over and over again.

--Read the article. It's supposed to be cancer-causing and made of tungsten, the same stuff that's in lightbulbs.

also, they're talking about Phosphorous Bombs being used. This article is all over the place. I don't even know what kind of bomb the image is referring to, or if it was from the attack this week (white powder = black baby?) or in 2003 or in 2006.

Use judgement.

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The hard cold truth of resource wars is that people get killed as well as kids. May that Red Crescent worker be remembered for dealing with what can only be called a massacer.

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 03:42 PM by flymetothemoon

reply to post by masonwatcher

And ? I don't see how that image has something to do with the global reaction of what's going on in Gasa. It would be as same as to post some body parts left from a suicide bomber in Israel. Would not make any sence. Would it ?
Its you're thread, so you should at least stay to the topic you're self. Feel free to discuss me as the poster like you did in another thread.
Still i will say that using violence and among other things like shooting at Israelis and atacking the danish police is not giving sympathy for the palistine people. We do have the freedom of speech, so there is no need to use violence

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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 03:44 PM by dooper

Now the wild claims include Israelis stomping on the heads of Palestinians.

It is just this type of hype that stirs folks up to react irrationally.

I can see where some Islamic militants, even Gazan Islamic militants would likely object to stomping on heads, as they prefer to cut heads off of living non-Muslims.

So bad things happen in war.

That's why it isn't very smart to start a fight you aren't absolutely certain of winning.

And no one, not even sympathizers, can say Gazans are very smart.

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 03:49 PM by Anonymous ATS

reply to post by ll__raine__ll

to call someone an antisemite after they criticize Israel's actions is meant to distract from the real issue, the purposeful slaughter of civilians. its also an attempt to quiet that criticism. i find it appalling that people who were the victims of the holocaust are now committing one themselves.

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 03:50 PM by Alpha_Magnum

Originally posted by flymetothemoon
We do have the freedom of speech, so there is no need to use violence

So by that logic when we don't have freedom of speech then it is OK to resort to violence!! That I completely agree with. When the 1st Amendment fails we fall back to the second. Needless to say this does not work in Israel. Israel on the books has a Parliamentary form of government but in practical terms they are eff3entially fascists. What democracy builds walls around people??

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 03:52 PM by dooper

reply to post by Alpha_Magnum

The kind of Democracy that grew weary of suicide bombers entering from this area and blowing themselves up in buses, market, coffee houses, on and on.

So you either kill them or wall them out.

Israel took the more humane approach.

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 03:56 PM by Loke.

Originally posted by pantheria
reply to post by FlyersFan

these comments made by flyers Fan are simply a form of itimidation a fear tactic threatening those who dare post opposition to this Gaza situation with reprisals , This kind of individual would have no problem making a list of names or with being a paid informant in my opinion .

Indeed and i have seen this going on in several threads and he/she is not the only one, but i do think like in any other "war" you will have the different parties involved, disinfo agents working hard on all fronts also on ATS, i asked earlier on if FF was some how connected to this, and i ask the same questions again, this time please if you answer swear on the holy book.

Best regards.

Loke.

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 04:02 PM by flymetothemoon

reply to post by Alpha_Magnum

"At least my opinion of Israel has gone extremely negative... And seems like this feeling is not limited to me, it is global."
This is what my post was based on. So you should read the posts instead of twisting it around for you're own agenda !

reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 04:16 PM by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by dooper
When you have kill ratios like Israel has, it's really hard to think about global condemnation.

So your saying they are proud to kill as many palestinians as they can?

I thought the initial statement made by israeli officials was: to target hamas and stop terrorism. Was he lying?

I don't recall zero global condemnation when Egypt, Syria, and Jordan lined up tens of thousands of men, thousands of tanks, thousands of artillery to wipe Israel off the map in 1967.

But I do recall global condemnation of Israel four days later when they were slaughtering the very folks determined to slaughter them.

It seems people usually root for the under-dog, despite who is "wrong" or "right", much like in sports.