Joe the Plumber Calls On Obama to Help Israel, page 2

Originally posted by Sestias

"Joe the Plumber" (who wasn't exactly a plumber) has now become qualified to be a war correspondent in the middle east. His "fifteen minutes of fame" during McCain's campaign has apparently paid off handsomely.

Calling on Obama to help Israel seems gratuitous, since Obama has given every indication of supporting Israel anyway. Anything to stoke the fires of liberal/conservative partisan warfare.

I just wonder why Joe isn't in the Congo, where tens of thousands are being killed. That's a conflict in which American intervention is really needed.

www.examiner.com
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[edit on 12-1-2009 by Sestias]

Yeah I would like to see this guy go on ahead and tackle the Congo. Dude would go missing his first week there, people murder out there like we drink soda in the States. The sad thing is the Congo has been in DIRE need of help for years and for the most part we keep our noses clear from being anywhere near that mess....Sad.

reply to post by vor78

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The thing I have to say makes everything your saying crumble is (not opposing what your saying at all by the way, I believe the same but...) this guy is offering his position on the matter? Your sure its his? Because I am pretty sure in today's America he's a working example of how you can buy a persons support with just a little fame,fortune,or a mix of both I suppose...

reply to post by Sestias

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Shows the level of intelligence you need to have to be consultant for the media. I STILL say we should send him packin for the congo and let him fend for himself and document the experiences because THATS what journalism IS. The eyes and ears of America is what journalists are and that isnt experience talking...thats common sense.

reply to post by Averysmallfoxx

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I agree. I was serious in saying the Congo needs the world's intervention more than Israel does (she's doing fine all by herself). I think race is a factor in the western world's negligence, but also the incredible complexity of the politics. It's difficult to name a clear victim or a clear perpetrator--no side of the conflict is without blame.

Not only the attention of western powers and journalists is needed, but also U.N. intervention.

But I digress from the subject of this thread.

reply to post by Sestias

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I would agree about the complexities involved. All sides involved have become survivalistic and there are so very many innocent victims. The only way to untie the nastiest of knots is to focus on one thread at a time until you have nothing but the straight of clarity. Forgive me of my off topic tendency mods!

reply to post by Averysmallfoxx

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It's not so bad being an American. I'd take being an American living in a pile of stinking $#!T than living in luxury anywhere else.

Our problem is that outsiders thought Americans were dumb. We went to the polls in November and erased all doubt.

And I fail to see the problem with Joe the Plumber. He's apparently able to do things his critics are unable to.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I wonder if he'll write a book about his experiences? You know what he's doing, right?

Palin/Plumber 2012

Say it ain't so, Joe!

God help us all!

I can not believe that we as a people have been so dumbed down that the media call sell us crap like this.

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We don't get yanked around. I don't.

And you get the government you voted for. The government you vote for, you deserve.

All this financial crap went down under Democratic leadership, under Democratic programs, which amounted to Welfare in Housing.

We just sent those same idiots back, and now we have the Annointed One who will enable them a more complete path to disaster.

Um, sorry Dooper... I hate to do this to you....

Iraq War - $845 billion source
Bailouts to date - $7.4 trillion source

Let's not forget too that these socialist bailouts were from a neo-conservative die hard who preached "free market capitalism."

This economic crisis happened under REPUBLICAN leadership. Bush/Cheney/Paulson

I'm not saying Democrats are saints or anything, the whole system is a sham, but this is the worst administration in American history. Find 1, just 1 administration that has wracked up an 8 trillion dollar tab. I dare you.

I understand completely that in economics, there is a lag between policy and real world implications in the market. I, however, have NEVER heard of an 8 year lag before the policy then takes its direct effect. Keep in mind Bush and co. has been there for 8 years and this crisis hit in the 4th quarter of their ballgame, just as they get to leave for lifelong vacay and dump the mess on someone else.

We do not elect cabinet members. We only get to choose from 2 candidates (the 2 dominant parties will always win with the system we have in America) for President, the VP is chosen by them. We have shady business left and right with "voter fraud," recounts, Geb Bush in Florida anyone?, Michigan, Ohio.... No dooper, the government we has is NOT one we deserve. But that is highly opinionated, what a human being deserves. I want more out of life than the option to get a PC cell phone or a $5 cup of coffee from Starbucks, I want more out of life than a government that tortures, more than a government that places a prison out of US so they can get away with whatever they want, I want more out of life than a government who bails out the biggest businesses in America while small businesses/families/40-60 hr a week blue collar workers go bankrupt, I want more out of life than a country where you can commit a $50 billion ponzi scheme then get sent to their room .. LITERALLY. I want more out of life than a country full of ignorant masses who have no clue what their government is doing. I want more out of life than a country that wiretaps your phone. I want more out of a country than an illegal federal income tax. I want more out of life than a central bank that has enslaved my parents, myself, my kids, their kids, their kids, etc

America is like a hooker with HIV. Nice exterior, probably fake boobs, pretty face with plenty of makeup, knows how to work it, attractive/posh clothing...but dying on the inside.

I won't even get into where America ranks in education, crime, infancy rate, literacy rate, economy, health care etc. If you still think America is sooo awesome, look up any one of those and you will see a true testament to American society.

If I had to guess, you're over 30... probably a bit older than that, and you grew up getting taught that America was Number 1 and could do no evil. You can live in your fantasy land, I'll live with the factual information about the United States...

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