The point here is that you are infringing one someones right to choice. How can you say that abortion is not a choice? It is a choice. Something is growing inside me, I have the right to choose whether I want to keep that or not.

You don't have to agree with it. But you don't have the right to attempt to take away my choice either. The choice should always be open.

Are you a vegetarian or a vegan?

If not than you are eating the flesh of a murdered animal every time you eat meat. I don't see anyone asking the animal if it wants to die or not.

Surely abortion has to be an option, its all well and good for those with religious beliefs to condemn such actions, but really...should a woman that has been raped have to suffer 9 months carrying the child of her vicious attacker only to either a. spend the rest of her life bringing that child up with that everyday reminder or b. after 9 months give the baby away, I don't believe either are an option, especially if this decision is driven by the antiquated beliefs of self righteous bible bashers, no offence of course. Would their views be the same if it was their daughters being raped? Maybe and that's what scares me about religion, blind faith to a fictional bestseller. What next, The Harry Potter church of Wisdom!

As for everyday abortion, again it has to be an option, we are fast approaching 7 billion on the planet, if we are forced to have unplanned/unwanted children then we are heading down the inevitable road of governmental child restriction, same as China. Is it preferable to terminate before development as you know you can't provide for the child or have the child then drown it at birth like a kitten as you can't afford the child tax? This happens in China everyday. Wake up, people make mistakes, being religious and assuming its Ok to tell everyone else how to live is one of the biggest.

Anti-abortion laws are used by governments to win religious votes, plain and simple.

To those who like to say, "it is just a bunch of cells, like any other in the body." I would reply as has been stated before me, that this "bunch" of cells is a growing child. Someone said then the sperm and the egg are also to be considered children. The difference being....this "bunch" of cells is a combination of the sperm and the egg. Thus a child.

As for those who argue the mother has the right, well...yes, legally. If all humans have the right to life, then that "bunch" of cells, that cannot be anything but a child, should also have the right to life.

I have always wondered why it is considered murder if a woman gives birth to a baby and dumps it in the garbage can, but if the baby was aborted just before birth that is legal.

The argument is that the government should have no right to make a law to prevent killing the baby in the womb, but we have many laws on the books against any other killing, including "hate" killing. This logic mystifies me.

My feelings are really involved in the case of rape or incest. I do realize that the pregnancy is not her fault. This is a terrible and life changing event for a woman of any age. I don't believe that killing the unborn baby helps anything for the majority of women. But... who said that life is "fair" for anyone. If we are honest with ourselves we do have many "unfair" problems to face during our lives. We can choose to let them make us stronger or not.

As for the "quality" of life. Did any of you watch the video on page 1 posted by Supecertari? This video is of the conjoined twins. It sure looks to me as though they are dealing with what is a terrible problem, but do you think they would rather be dead?

I have read this whole thread. I do have to admit that I am against abortion. Some worry about the neglect, abuse or poverty of the world into which the child will be born. Can any of the above merit the horrible physical pain to the child being aborted in womb? The womb which should be shielding the child from all hurt.

Since somewhere around 20% of ALL pregnancies naturally miscarriage, and you pro-lifers believe God controls pretty much everything, doesn't that make your God the largest committer of abortions?

Since somewhere around 20% of ALL pregnancies naturally miscarriage, and you pro-lifers believe God controls pretty much everything, doesn't that make your God the largest committer of abortions?

Originally posted by crmanager
I said abortion is wrong. Period.

IMO abortion is always wrong. Even if having an abortion will benefit the mother in every imaginable way, It is selfish at every look. The only time abortion makes sense is if the mother and child's life is in danger if birth continues.
Sacrifice is selfless. Even if it is your life which you have experienced to let another who has never seen the light of love to experience it. I have no problem with abortion being legal (It is just getting away with a minute scale of murder) The mother does not have to raise the child (her choice also). Governments are so concentrated on providing abortion as an option and not looking into more adequate programs for helping pregnant mothers in unthinkable circumstances for giving the born a life so they just might appreciate it.

the quality of life is undetermined until it has lived.

Originally posted by TasteTheMagick
A child in that situation was conceived in hatred and brutality.

He or she is still a child no matter how he or she was conceived. And that child is innocent and does not deserve to be murdered by his or her mother. Punish the rapist. Not the child.