This is the truth for sure. I just dont know how much longer they are going to buy our debt. Militarily I think we are closer than what is made out.

Work closely with China .. eh?

Okay .. how about Obama work closely with them and get them to stop poisoning us with lead in our goods .. lead in our toys ... poison in our pet food ... below standard ingredients for medicine .... and what about all those human rights abuses that China loooooves to wallow in?

He can start with those.

I am sure he will. As a large scale manufacturer serving global markets, China is quite new. Their quality control may not be at the level the west has come to expect.

I am sure confirmable increases in the quality of Chinese products, including the removal of lead, will a priority in the near term. Thanks for the contribution.

PS. It wasn't until the 70s that we here in America stopped putting lead in our household paints. When the paint dried out and began to crack, children would eat the peelings. The results were varied including death, I think. I was quite young at the time, but remember being told not to eat paint chips.

Improving human rights is something we could all agree to do.

Life a journey, we all learn. Thanks again.

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Quite a few good points have been on this post. However, did it take Jimmy Carter opening his jabber jaw to realize all of this. Probably not.

Carter, zip it. For some reason he feels compelled to try and save what little legacy he has left behind. Perhaps we should take advice from him on how to deal with OPEC nations.

I know a little about China. Frankly, if there was a magical way we could become strong allies, no power on earth, not even the potentially fictional NWO or corporatist elite could contend with it.

But there are rules of conduct, keeping the people of China and the people of the United States from entering a dialogue. Only the politicians and political or mega wealthy are allowed to interact and 'plan' on our behalf. Any enduring relationship, or failure in cooperation will be their doing. Not ours.

Aside from that the people living in China and the people living in the US might be surprised at how alike they are in mind and relationships with their government. Which is why we should soon see increasing references in the media to the comparative lifestyles between us. I can't say whether it will be truthfully spun or just the usual Transnational Elite/MSM self-serving pablum they normally spew.

It bears remembering that there are more honor students in China than there are total student in the US. Lot's of fodder for concern there.

Originally posted by jibeho
Quite a few good points have been on this post. However, did it take Jimmy Carter opening his jabber jaw to realize all of this. Probably not.

Carter, zip it. For some reason he feels compelled to try and save what little legacy he has left behind. Perhaps we should take advice from him on how to deal with OPEC nations.

One name comes to mind Nixon.

A president who was probably hated more than Bush if you can imagine that. If it wasn't for him though we would probably be in the middle of a new arms race with the Chinese.

I wonder.

Originally posted by huckfinn
I think a basic change is taking hold on how Taiwan and China interact with one another, reducing the possibility of the United States having to get involved in a military incident.

The united states has had a decent relationships with other Asian countries, but it was always China that had it its culture shielded from the rest of the world and now that they are players on the world stage they have to open up a little their people who are becoming wealthier want to travel abroad and see the outside world.

They cant have both and needed to change. as far as Taiwan I'm glad mainland China seems to be getting the message and hopefully will make nice!




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I think China may be just recovering from PTS syndrome. In the last 98 years they lived through the destruction of a 300 years old Empire, 30 years of Civil War, War with Japan and 45 years of Cold War.

Its a 4500 years old society thats only been able to venture out into the world independently for the last 19 years. Its old, but young again.

He is going to have to. The long terms success and viability of future stimulas plans depends on whether or not China is willing to continue buying US debt.

The Peanut Farmer to the rescue!! How will he sell America out this time?

Why oh why do we give one of the worst presidents in U.S. history a voice in foreign policy? Can only imagine the promises he will make on our behalf.
Communism here we come!